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Strictly speaking the only Northern European countries include the nordic countries.. some more liberal definitions might include the baltic states. North-western europe is a more "made-up" definition...
There is Northern europe, Central europe and Southern Europe.
Western Europe and Eastern europe.
UK is culturally as western as France, but geographically is as northern as denmark, so there is a heavy controversy wether Its a northern european country or a western european one. Culture plays a big role, and the UK is culturally quite complex (a huge mix of peoples), same as France. Countries like Denmark or Sweden are just plain Northern european countries. So are countries like Spain and Italy Southern european.
Enough of the comedy. The U.K. as a whole lies north of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and is at approximately the same latitude as Denmark and some parts of Scotland lay north of Denmark, and the Baltic States. There is no controversy, according to the United Nations as well, the U.K. is part of Northern Europe. Countries like Sweden and Denmark have the similar Scandinavian culture. Northern Europe doesn't only include Scandinavia. Western European Region according to the United Nations Statistics Division are France, Monaco, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein. The U.K. is the most influential Northern European nation, remember Great Britain built the largest empire, countries such as the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia were former British colonies and the English language is the language of business today. Only culturally does the U.K. belong to Western Europe, it was also the only Northern European nation also to have withstood the Nazi regime attacks. "Huge mix of people", what does that mean? You are forgetting that Lapplanders live in the north of Scandinavia, and that they have Siberian origins.
Enough of the comedy. The U.K. as a whole lies north of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and is at approximately the same latitude as Denmark and some parts of Scotland lay north of Denmark, and the Baltic States. There is no controversy, according to the United Nations as well, the U.K. is part of Northern Europe. Countries like Sweden and Denmark have the similar Scandinavian culture. Northern Europe doesn't only include Scandinavia. Western European Region according to the United Nations Statistics Division are France, Monaco, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein. The U.K. is the most influential Northern European nation, remember Great Britain built the largest empire, countries such as the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia were former British colonies and the English language is the language of business today. Only culturally does the U.K. belong to Western Europe, it was also the only Northern European nation also to have withstood the Nazi regime attacks. "Huge mix of people", what does that mean? You are forgetting that Lapplanders live in the north of Scandinavia, and that they have Siberian origins.
Huge mix of different peoples and cultures, just like france britain was a huge melting pot from older times, romans, bretons, picts, celts, vikings/germanics,etc. France had romans, gauls, vikings, etc.
Both france and UK are very diverse countries culturally-wise in comparison to nations like Denmark or Sweden. And Lapplanders are culturally scandinavians, unless you are looking from settlements far apart from the civilization.
The British culture is an array of different cultures thrown in there, just as the French.
UK had a lot of ties with france historically wise, both royalty and their politics always were strong and had a lot in common. There are many lastnames that only exist in both France and The UK
UK and the baltic always had their own history far apart from the rest of europe.
Thats why I'm more adept to call Britain a Western european nation rather than Northern europen one.
IDentical lastnames in UK and France:
Archer
Barret
Baron
Barron
Barry
Beaumont
Bennet (mostly Scottish in UK)
Berry
Bodin
Burton
Cantillon (rare in England)
Colson
Cousin
Darcy
Dillon (rare in France)
Ferry
Forest
Fort
Granger
Granville
Harcourt (rare in France)
Hardy
Havard
Hayes
Herbert
Jolly
Jordan
Lambert
Lombard
Mace
Mandeville (rare in France)
Morel (rare in Britain)
Noble
Page
Paget
Parry (mostly Welsh in UK)
Percy (rare in France)
Perry
Roche
Rose
Roy
Royal
Salmon
Samson (mostly Scottish in UK)
Talbot
Vernon
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I read a well respected history book, written by a British scholar, I believe, about 40 years ago, in which Italy is classified as central Europe, focusing on the 1815-1914 period.
A few days ago I met a woman from Ukraine who classifies Europe as north, central and south, going horizontally, not east and west divided vertically. In other words to her Finland, the Baltics, Scandinavia and the UK are northern Europe, countries like Poland, Germany and France are central Europe and, I suppose, the Balkans, Italy and Iberia are southern Europe.
I could understand why some people might culturally classify northern Italians as northern European and geographically even central Europe (e.g. parts of Italy are as far east as Slovakia and Poland; parts of Italy were once part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire), but geographically not northern Europe on any measure.
UK is not culturally northern eurpean country. The Netherlands and Germany are both more similar to Scandinavia in every sense than the UK is, and nobody is even classifying them as northern european nations.
Austria is more similar to Norway when it comes to culture and people's temperament,...than Its to the majority of italy, so geography not always plays a major role.
Enough of the comedy. The U.K. as a whole lies north of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and is at approximately the same latitude as Denmark and some parts of Scotland lay north of Denmark, and the Baltic States. There is no controversy, according to the United Nations as well, the U.K. is part of Northern Europe. Countries like Sweden and Denmark have the similar Scandinavian culture. Northern Europe doesn't only include Scandinavia. Western European Region according to the United Nations Statistics Division are France, Monaco, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein. The U.K. is the most influential Northern European nation, remember Great Britain built the largest empire, countries such as the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia were former British colonies and the English language is the language of business today. Only culturally does the U.K. belong to Western Europe, it was also the only Northern European nation also to have withstood the Nazi regime attacks. "Huge mix of people", what does that mean? You are forgetting that Lapplanders live in the north of Scandinavia, and that they have Siberian origins.
Every city in Scotland are closer to Bergen than London Bergen are also closest city in main land Europe from Scotland..
No. Neither is Switzerland, which is in Central Europe. Italy is both southern and central. In order for you get a better understanding of it, take a look at any map, it might help.
The United Nations uses these three geographical designations. Others use different definitions, but the UN should prevail. They do not have Central europe, just North, South, West, and East
Northern Europe
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Sweden
Norway
Finland
Iceland
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Åland Islands | Faroe Islands | Guernsey | Isle of Man | Jersey |Sark | Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands
Southern Europe
Albania
Andorra
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Greece
Italy
Malta
Montenegro
Portugal
Serbia
Slovenia
Spain
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Holy See | San Marino | Gibraltar
Western Europe
Austria
Belgium
France
Germany
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Switzerland
Monaco
London is further south than Berlin for a start, it's a common mistake that people think Germany is south of the UK - in fact Germany extends as far north as northern England, and only slightly further south than the most southern point in the UK.
Culturally, it is also in Western Europe. We have far more in common with other western European countries than we do with the Nordic countries.
North west Europe and North east Europe are made up terms which don't exist.
The UK is in geographically in Northern Europe, precisely northwestern Europe, some parts are even on the same latitude as southern Norway. Though politically, culturally linked to Western Europe.
How did you come to that conclusion, when Europe stems from 35N to 75N?
The UK lies at 50N-60N, placing it slap bang in the middle.
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