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Old 10-16-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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France sees Eurozone as single

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Old 10-16-2017, 10:18 AM
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Good Luck with that.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Meanwhile in the breaking EU: brexit, catalunia and...31 years old idiot (I mean useful idiot) heading Austria.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Ideally it should be like that, otherwise the whole EU thing will collapse in the end.

In reality it won't happen because too many countries are so "proud" to have a nation smaller than Ile-de-France, or even Madrid.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Ideally it should be like that, otherwise the whole EU thing will collapse in the end.

In reality it won't happen because too many countries are so "proud" to have a nation smaller than Ile-de-France, or even Madrid.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Meanwhile in the breaking EU: brexit, catalunia and...31 years old idiot (I mean useful idiot) heading Austria.
You can't on one hand claim to support democracy, and on the other refuse to accept elected politicians you dislike. Nowadays people act like children, and they pretend to be superior as if everyone who chooses a different path is utterly stupid.

If the Austrians want to say no to mass migrants, then there is NOTHING wrong with that. Why don't people still get that extremely SIMPLE idea? Why are so many people brainwashed into thinking only allowing millions of migrants your country may not have the capacity to accept is the right choice to make. This is not democracy, this is pure dictatorship.
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:41 AM
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The flaw in the system is money. If you have a way to vote yourself more money or allow you to work less, its going to conflict with the people who need more money so they work to earn more than you. This is really a problem in Europe with a monetary union but no fiscal union. Good luck with that indeed
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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The flaw in the system is money. If you have a way to vote yourself more money or allow you to work less, its going to conflict with the people who need more money so they work to earn more than you. This is really a problem in Europe with a monetary union but no fiscal union. Good luck with that indeed
doesn't the US work just like that? with a monetary union, but each state has their own finances (state can be bankrupt even).

It CAN work, but as I said, it is the "national pride" that gets in the way. Napoleon was close to achieving that but the Britain sabotaged it like it is any of its business. Now it is mostly impossible when people think they have some pride in belonging to a tiny country that can't even protect itself, or even have the market for any business to thrive.
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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doesn't the US work just like that? with a monetary union, but each state has their own finances (state can be bankrupt even).

It CAN work, but as I said, it is the "national pride" that gets in the way. Napoleon was close to achieving that but the Britain sabotaged it like it is any of its business. Now it is mostly impossible when people think they have some pride in belonging to a tiny country that can't even protect itself, or even have the market for any business to thrive.
How about having African countries, and the Americas surrender their independence and adopt their colonial status back? Most of them aren't really nations to speak of after all, and were doing better on many aspects while under the control of their former ruler, don't you think?
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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How about having African countries, and the Americas surrender their independence and adopt their colonial status back? Most of them aren't really nations to speak of after all, and were doing better on many aspects while under the control of their former ruler, don't you think?
except they were not treated fairly and equally, and that's the problem. Which of those colonies were treated just like the white people in the European country? None. Did the UK treat India well? Did France treat Algeria fairly? No. Otherwise I don't see the harm of being governed by a different ethnicity. For example, French Guyana has no interest in being independent. It is treated like a French region now without being opressed, with the same rights.

Plus, you can't have a country of 100% same ethnicity. Even Slovenia with 2M people have a bunch of different ethnicities.

Again it is narrow minded if not stupid to want to have "our own country" based on ethnicity. How many French people are purely French, instead of from neigbouring countries, or mixed? They think they are French because they are made French by the French institutions.

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