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Old 04-13-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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If I remember correctly, didn't they have to sign a commutation of the death penalty to join an international group of some kind (like the EU, but obviously not the EU)? I don't think it's a permanent commutation either, just for an indefinite amount of time

well I'm no lawyer but as far as I understand there's 'moratorium' on it...so kinda like if someone shoots Putin they'd be killed because the "moratorium" will be removed. Which doesn't seem the same as something being illegal:


https://www.yukon-news.com/letters-o...ats-in-a-name/
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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well I'm no lawyer but as far as I understand there's 'moratorium' on it...so kinda like if someone shoots Putin they'd be killed because the "moratorium" will be removed. Which doesn't seem the same as something being illegal:


https://www.yukon-news.com/letters-o...ats-in-a-name/
"One of the absolute requirements of the Council of Europe for all members is that the death penalty cannot be carried out for any crime. While the preferred method is abolition, the Council has demonstrated that it would accept a moratorium, at least temporarily. Consistent with this rule, on 25 January 1996, the Council required Russia to implement a moratorium immediately and fully abolish death penalty within three years, in order for its bid for inclusion in the organization be to be approved. In a little over a month, Russia agreed and became a member of the Council. Whether the moratorium has actually happened as a matter of legal right is the subject of some controversy."

There it is
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Me, I would just go to Ukraine, giving up very little of your objective, and avoiding the visa hassles. I think a lot cheaper, too.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Me, I would just go to Ukraine, giving up very little of your objective, and avoiding the visa hassles.
Not dangerous at all? Still pretty?

EDIT: I think I'm pretty dead set on Russia. Ukraine is close, but it's still not Russia.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Russia
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"Madam". I'm a ma'am.
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Definitly easier...for starters it's the only country in Europe (except Belarus) with death penalty, something that will be unthinkable in both western/eastern europe where people are liberal unlike America or Russia.


and whoever thinks I am wrong:



"Article 20 of the Russian Constitution states that everyone has the right to life, and that "until its abolition, death penalty may only be passed for the most serious crimes against human life.""


Again, not something you'd see in either western europe, eastern europe or the so called "ussr".
In Russia moratorium in effect to death penalty from 1996. And there was not a single case applications for all this time. The death penalty is replaced by a term of 25 years. But.. though I'm not a supporter of death penalty but in some case, I think, it may be necessary.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Oh, sorry
*wrote in a little book*




In Russia moratorium in effect to death penalty from 1996. And there was not a single case applications for all this time. The death penalty is replaced by a term of 25 years. But.. though I'm not a supporter death penalty but in some case, I think, it may be necessary.
I, too, think that in some cases, it may be necessary. Some people only have a desire to kill and nothing else.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Oh, sorry
*wrote in a little book*




In Russia moratorium in effect to death penalty from 1996. And there was not a single case applications for all this time. The death penalty is replaced by a term of 25 years. But.. though I'm not a supporter of death penalty but in some case, I think, it may be necessary.
I think I forgot to respond to your email... I'll have to do it tomorrow!
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:18 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Oh, sorry
*wrote in a little book*




In Russia moratorium in effect to death penalty from 1996. And there was not a single case applications for all this time. The death penalty is replaced by a term of 25 years. But.. though I'm not a supporter of death penalty but in some case, I think, it may be necessary.
Well, officially, that's true. The problem is, those pesky extrajudicial executions done to people who get in the way of the regime in one way or another.

But maybe that's not relevant, IDK....
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Well, officially, that's true. The problem is, those pesky extrajudicial executions done to people who get in the way of the regime in one way or another.

But maybe that's not relevant, IDK....
If this would be true that our liberals would have raised a howl up to sky
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Also, doubt anyone cares, but my family comes from Minsk in Belarus, Chernigov in Ukraine, and I don't know which city in Poland and Russia.
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