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There are quite a few exceptions to this dual citizen thing, it is not straightforward that Russia does not have dual citizenship, they in fact do under a few exceptions.
I'm sure.
Some animals are always "more equal" than others.
Particularly when it comes to the Russian oligarchs with Israeli passports.
Or to someone like Depardieu.
As for the rest..
It is what it is.
I'm seeing 5-6 years to become a citizen, and that's if I choose to renounce my American citizenship...I might not want to.
Also, Americans > Western Europeans
I think what it's not a good idea. Why? You need live in Russia at least 5 years and understand what you can live here, and you are satisfied with our way of life and it does not cause you discomfort. Believe me, we have many things in our life which seems to foreigners very strangers and incomprehensible. And not all take this. Here you can live just with a residence permit.
I don't know why some people are assuming the OP doesn't speak Russian. He said he's learned some, and plans to take classes prior to making his move, and would undoubtedly get more classes when he enrolls in a university program there. Also, he says he has Russian ancestry, so he wants to check the country out. He may not last as long there, as he thinks he will, but there's nothing wrong with getting to know Russia. OK, a romantic notion perhaps, and "boxus" raises some good points.
Actually, what I found concerning, was the fact that the OP said he didn't have any higher education. If that's true, I think he should work on that, before he goes. With at least a BA, say--in English, or Teaching English as a Foreign Language, he might be able to score a translation job (assuming he gets his Russian up to speed), and might fit into society better. He'd have a niche.
OP, what's the story on your education? Any prospects for college?
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Language Link, I think. What do you mean Rasbussniks?
It was a joke. . It means, you'd only be paid in play money, not currency that's worth anything outside the Russian Bizarro-world. And if you want to be an English language teacher-assistant. you'd better know English grammar backwards and forwards, and have flawless spelling, too.
And forget about IREX; someone just informed me that IREX was thrown out of Russia back during the 2015/6 purges of Western non-profit agencies. Did I saw "Western"? I meant--American. Does anyone happen to know why IREX was kicked out? They were only a support organization for people studying in Russia or doing research. They weren't doing anything that could potentially be regarded as subversive, like the "civil society" projects other organizations were doing.
I have no college degree and no experience teaching...I'm obviously a native speaker, but I don't understand who would hire me when there are better options.
I'd like to challenge that statement - you have never taught anybody to do anything in your entire life? Really? Unless you have been living in the woods like a hermit, you almost can't avoid teaching something to somebody. As several others have posted, it's not necessary to have teaching credentials, to do the job or to get hired (and sometimes doing the job and getting hired are almost two separate hurdles).
I don't know why some people are assuming the OP doesn't speak Russian. He said he's learned some, and plans to take classes prior to making his move, and would undoubtedly get more classes when he enrolls in a university program there. Also, he says he has Russian ancestry, so he wants to check the country out. He may not last as long there, as he thinks he will, but there's nothing wrong with getting to know Russia. OK, a romantic notion perhaps, and "boxus" raises some good points.
Actually, what I found concerning, was the fact that the OP said he didn't have any higher education. If that's true, I think he should work on that, before he goes. With at least a BA, say--in English, or Teaching English as a Foreign Language, he might be able to score a translation job (assuming he gets his Russian up to speed), and might fit into society better. He'd have a niche.
OP, what's the story on your education? Any prospects for college?
Most foreign language speakers, me included are much better translating into their native language from the target language. Fortunately, I think this is what's more in demand in Russia. Most educated Russians of my acquaintance can read at least some English. So they could in principle do E->R translations.
People who don't speak a second language don't usually realize that reading, writing, listening, and speaking are somewhat discrete skills. Usually, and this is true of me, reading is stronger than writing, and listening is stronger than speaking. (Maybe this is why I generally get along quite well with Russians who have little English capability - I am forced to listen intently, and not talk too much!)
Keeping in mind that translation (written) and interpretation (spoken) are related but separate skills. Many do both, but not all. Interpretation requires a mental quickness that not just anybody can come up with. While translation, if you are slow but accurate, you will always have work, but you won't make much money till your speed comes up (which it generally will with experience).
A comment on COL in Russia - if you make like a bug and head for the bright lights, the big outfits where there is a lot of English speaking help, certainly Moscow is an expensive place. But if you speak the language well enough, and "go native", even Moscow is not too bad.
Another general comment - when I went there frequently, dealing with various nuclear institutes, particularly Kurchatov - I made a point of always clearly NOT being any sort of spy or intel gatherer. I made it a point to stay with my escort, to participate in the legitimate work we were doing together, and not go "off topic". That's not to say I didn't hunt like Daniel Boone for new business, but I kept my nose out of any sensitive topic. I didn't bring home as much information as I could have - I debriefed truthfully, but I didn't make an effort to paint a picture with extraordinary detail. That kind of thing goes back and forth. With the way things are now, you can do that, and you will still be watched hard. The Russian intelligence services are always suspicious of Americans, we have had some bad actors who have given them reason to be suspicious. You as an American wanting to maybe even emigrate to Russia - well, there are not that many Americans who want to emigrate, period, and damn few to Russia, so, yeah, one reasonable explanation is that you are some sort of intelligence agent. So they are going to "go there", be ready for it.
I'd like to challenge that statement - you have never taught anybody to do anything in your entire life? Really? Unless you have been living in the woods like a hermit, you almost can't avoid teaching something to somebody. As several others have posted, it's not necessary to have teaching credentials, to do the job or to get hired (and sometimes doing the job and getting hired are almost two separate hurdles).
I second that.
If he'd have enough of Russian under his belt to communicate effectively, he'd be able to give at least private lessons. Plenty of Russians ( particularly not in Moscow) would prefer to hire a native speaker to learn English/teach their kids.
No, legit things like if by marriage, birth, and certain countries have agreements with Russia.
What "certain countries?"
"Yet, “dual citizenship” status can only be granted to citizens of the foreign countries that signed a special international agreement with Russia. At the time of publication, such an agreement only exists with Tajikistan. A different type of agreement exists with Belarus, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan that provides a simplified application procedure without the need to renounce existing citizenship.
As Vladimir Starinsky, managing partner at the law firm Starinsky, Korchago and Partners, says, if no such agreement exists, a person falls under the “second citizenship” (“vtoroye grazhdanstvo”) category instead of the “dual” (“dvoynoye”) one. “It doesn’t lead to any kind of limitations, but one needs to inform the Federal Migration Service (about a second citizenship) within 60 days,” he says. For failing to do so, a person could face a fine of 500-1,000 rubles ($7-14) for a small delay, or 200,000 rubles ($2,841) for a delay of more than a year.
So it's all about the "second citizenship" ( such as American one,) which will be disregarded as I've mentioned earlier.
In that article from "Russia Beyond" they are talking about Ornella Mutti who is eyeing Russian passport ( without denouncing her Italian one I imagine.)
I don't think that she has as much clout though ( and would bring as much publicity) as Gerard Deparidieu though, for whom Putin personally made *an exception.*
But overall I agree with what certain Russian folks mentioned on FB;
"In Russia, privileges are for the *friends*; the rest must live "by the law."
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