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Old 04-11-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Why would you have to renounce your US citizenship? Don't be a chump. Guard your US passport carefully. You never know when you might need it in Russia. Dual citizenship is the way to go, if they'll let you.

Irkutsk is a pretty city. Bear in mind, that the farther north you go, the longer the winter nights. Arkhangelsk may not get any sun, or hardly any, in winter. Check that out.

If you could swing a program closer to Petersburg---Novgorod, maybe, you can take the train to Finland, easily.
No dual citizenship between Russia and the US I highly doubt I would ever renounce my U.S citizenship because my whole family lives here.

That sounds kind of cool though...I'm sure it's less cool than it sounds!

I don't know why I'd want to travel to Finland...that was more of a joke.
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I'm not certain about getting an immigrant visa to Russia. From what I have read lately, there is a greater suspicion of Americans, that they may be spies or whatever. So you will be watched, even if you don't cause any problems.
Wait, what? Where did you get this info? They're back to watching foreigners?

As Paul McCartney famously sang, "BACK in the, BACK in the, BACK IN THE USSR!" I keep telling people, that with Russia, it's "the more things change, the more they stay the same", but they don't really believe me.

This stems from the same mentality that accused the American charitable foundations working in Russia (MacArthur Fdn., Ford, etc.) of being in Russia for subversive purposes. This is lousy, if it's true.
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:42 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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No dual citizenship between Russia and the US I highly doubt I would ever renounce my U.S citizenship because my whole family lives here.

That sounds kind of cool though...I'm sure it's less cool than it sounds!

I don't know why I'd want to travel to Finland...that was more of a joke.
Well, it's helpful to know that an escape hatch is nearby, if you ever need one. And it might be worth an occasional weekend there, just to get a change of scenery and touch base with a more or less normal Western country, maybe do a little shopping, or whatever. Depends on how easily you blend in with the local people, when you travel; you might feel at home in Russia, so Finland might not be necessary. But Finland's expensive, so...you wouldn't be visiting too often. Look up the youth hostels there, for cheap stays.
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Well, it's helpful to know that an escape hatch is nearby, if you ever need one. And it might be worth an occasional weekend there, just to get a change of scenery and touch base with a more or less normal Western country, maybe do a little shopping, or whatever. Depends on how easily you blend in with the local people, when you travel; you might feel at home in Russia, so Finland might not be necessary. But Finland's expensive, so...you wouldn't be visiting too often. Look up the youth hostels there, for cheap stays.
What do you think of the idea of applying to be an English teacher in Russia? They apparently have teacher interns where you don't need any certification or degree, and they train you.
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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What do you think of the idea of applying to be an English teacher in Russia? They apparently have teacher interns where you don't need any certification or degree, and they train you.
Who's "they"?

Be aware that you'd be paid in rasbussniks, so it would only supplement your grocery money, fwiw.

Too bad you don't have a college degree (really? ). You might be able to arrange an office job with IREX, which organizes study programs in Russia. Those can be a good gig. You get paid somewhere in-between an American salary and a Russian one. But you need to be conversational in Russian, first. Well, I guess you don't necessarily even need a college degree, but I think they prefer that you at least be working on one.

https://www.irex.org
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Tomsk, Russian Federation
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Who's "they"?

Be aware that you'd be paid in rasbussniks, so it would only supplement your grocery money, fwiw.

Too bad you don't have a college degree (really? ). You might be able to arrange an office job with IREX, which organizes study programs in Russia. Those can be a good gig. You get paid somewhere in-between an American salary and a Russian one. But you need to be conversational in Russian, first. Well, I guess you don't necessarily even need a college degree, but I think they prefer that you at least be working on one.

https://www.irex.org
Language Link, I think. What do you mean Rasbussniks?
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:06 PM
 
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Why would you have to renounce your US citizenship? Don't be a chump. Guard your US passport carefully. You never know when you might need it in Russia. Dual citizenship is the way to go, if they'll let you.

Irkutsk is a pretty city. Bear in mind, that the farther north you go, the longer the winter nights. Arkhangelsk may not get any sun, or hardly any, in winter. Check that out.

If you could swing a program closer to Petersburg---Novgorod, maybe, you can take the train to Finland, easily.

Because Russia doesn't accept dual citizenship ( except for in the case of couple of ex-Soviet republics.)
Russians who live in the US for example and acquire American citizenship will be still regarded as Russian citizens and will be required to get their visas in their RUSSIAN passports. UNLESS they officially denounced Russian citizenship, which is not an easy process.

(American passports will be disregarded in this case.)


Likewise, if a foreigner will apply for Russian citizenship, he/she will be required to surrender the previous citizenship.
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:16 PM
 
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Russia tracks the nations of origin, you can look it up on their websites. Central Asia, not East Asia.

US too.
And we all know what's going on with Hispanic population in the US, and how fast it's growing

Immigrants from Central Asia are the same idea; cheap labor, that right-wing Russian government likes so much. The shiny example of "American success" you know)))
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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Because Russia doesn't accept dual citizenship ( except for in the case of couple of ex-Soviet republics.)
Russians who live in the US for example and acquire American citizenship will be still regarded as Russian citizens and will be required to get their visas in their RUSSIAN passports. UNLESS they officially denounced Russian citizenship, which is not an easy process.

(American passports will be disregarded in this case.)


Likewise, if a foreigner will apply for Russian citizenship, he/she will be required to surrender the previous citizenship.
There are quite a few exceptions to this dual citizen thing, it is not straightforward that Russia does not have dual citizenship, they in fact do under a few exceptions.
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:31 PM
 
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Anyway, why in the hell would you want to live in Russia? Because your money goes further? It does not go too much further at all, it can be quite expensive to live there. If you do not know the language, have connections, etc, all you will end up doing is falling in with some expat community and some dopey Russians that hang with them, then wake up one day wondering what in the hell are you even doing there with your life.

Unless someone has an actual objective reason(s) for such things, chances are high it will be a miserable time.
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