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Old 03-19-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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There is no debate that some preventative toning needs to be done. An elastic band is safer than "the rack" that you suggested.

In addition once you have joint damage you have joint pain no matter how much chest pounding you want to do. Sorry but it sounds like you are a confirmed jock unable to relate to anyone who isn't a jock.

Oh yes, both normal paced walking as well as easy riding of a bicycle are preferred methods to heal an injured knee.
I'm not a jock. I'm a croc. I thought you knew that, Grandpa.

I am not sure why people are always thinking 100 pounds when it comes to these machines which nicely regulate the arc movement.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Those machines should be used for conditioning (12-15 reps). Condtioning movements should never be met with a struggle (Break in form). That's when undue stress is put on the knee. The average person cannot do sets (3-5) with reps equalling 12-15 for conditioning. The machine should not be used for strength resistance; heavy, intense exercise for volume (3-5 sets at 3-5 reps, with a 65-95% 1RM [1RM shouldn't even be a consideration for the machines anyways]).
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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I'm not a jock. I'm a croc. I thought you knew that, Grandpa.

I am not sure why people are always thinking 100 pounds when it comes to these machines which nicely regulate the arc movement.
Oh yes you are a jock who is a crock.

That damn machine just is no good for injured joints of any kind.

GOT IT YET?
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Oh yes you are a jock who is a crock.

That damn machine just is no good for injured joints of any kind.

GOT IT YET?
Grandpa, put that pipe down.

I'm gonna literally carry Sue and seat her on the leg curl. You coming with me or not?
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Well, I'd say no one here is qualified to give advice -- since no one here knows the extent of the injury.

Joint problems occur from a multitude of injuries, those which we do not know. Implementing a solution to a problem that no one knows, is not safe.

Go see a physical therapist!

It's hard to believe Sue, that you would blindly trust a group of self-proclaimed internet experts. Even so, trust people that you have no idea of their qualifications. You're just as good doing a google search if you're okay with taking information from a dark alley.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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Well, I'd say no one here is qualified to give advice -- since no one here knows the extent of the injury.

Joint problems occur from a multitude of injuries, those which we do not know. Implementing a solution to a problem that no one knows, is not safe.

Go see a physical therapist!

It's hard to believe Sue, that you would blindly trust a group of self-proclaimed internet experts. Even so, trust people that you have no idea of their qualifications. You're just as good doing a google search if you're okay with taking information from a dark alley.
This. 1000X this.

When it comes to anything medically involved, especially damaged or worn joints, never take advice out of a message or forum. Either see a physical therapist or an orthopedist.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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This. 1000X this.

When it comes to anything medically involved, especially damaged or worn joints, never take advice out of a message or forum. Either see a physical therapist or an orthopedist.
And pump 1000 bucks into the stethescreep fund.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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And risk pemanent damage.


...and I don't know how old Sue is, but probably older..with a stable job/insurance.. and a likeness to avoid injury at an older age when rehabilitation is less likely..
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Grandpa, put that pipe down.

I'm gonna literally carry Sue and seat her on the leg curl. You coming with me or not?
If you're gonna carry anybody anywhere carry them to a proper physical therapist!
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Well, I'd say no one here is qualified to give advice -- since no one here knows the extent of the injury.

Joint problems occur from a multitude of injuries, those which we do not know. Implementing a solution to a problem that no one knows, is not safe.

Go see a physical therapist!

It's hard to believe Sue, that you would blindly trust a group of self-proclaimed internet experts. Even so, trust people that you have no idea of their qualifications. You're just as good doing a google search if you're okay with taking information from a dark alley.
Best advice in the thread. If your insurance won't cover physical therapy talk to a therapist anyway. Maybe you can afford an evaluation and limited guidance. Just a thought.
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