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A slice of cake 22 50.00%
Go hungry for 1.5 hrs 22 50.00%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-17-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Originally Posted by Bonnie Jean McGee View Post
Protein bars have preservatives, hidden sugar, high salt and originate on some food chemists drawing board.


Nuts - none of the above.


Nature has given us the Perfect Snack Food already without having to run it through dyes, food additives and syrup to make it all stick together!
It's illegal for them to have "hidden sugar". They have to list the contents and carb, sugar, protein grams on the package. They're good as an emergency food, not as a regular thing. If the OP is having these emergencies on a regular basis, he needs to re-order his schedule.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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oh of course, Arnold Schwarzenegger always ate cake.




come on dude, seriously?


weight trainers eat eggs, meat, loaves of bread, boxes of muesli, protein shakes<<<high protein calorific surplus


THEY DO NOT EAT CAKE <<<pointless empty energy


and whoever Food Babe is I don't know - could it be possible that 2 people in the Universe disagree with you?


You apparently need a lesson in logical fallacy, but then I remember that you're the same person who told people a workout did nothing if you could move the next day, so I'm not going to take you too seriously.

Bottom line when bulking: Caloric surplus is needed. Telling someone to go hungry rather than eating a piece of cake is counterproductive to those goals.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Depends - if I did a med to long distance run the day before or am planning one that day - eat the cake without question.
If I have done no cardio and do not plan to do any that day - go hungry for 1.5. It depends on how intensely your calorie expenditures are for the day.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:42 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Did everyone miss this part?



Dude is trying to bulk up. The correct answer is to eat the damn cake.
LOL, I missed that. I guess as a woman, the idea of bulking just isn't a concept that I can fathom.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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Starving yourself is stupid. Period. Worrying about every single calorie is stupid as well. If you're hungry, eat. People who constantly starve themselves almost always quit and regain weight. Slow and steady wins the race.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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The option isn't slow and steady


the option is


either go hungry or eat cake


a lot of people (especially health conscious people) will choose a slow slump in blood sugar rather than a sudden high and subsequent crash that eating the cake will give you, WITHIN the 1.5 hours. Satiation will only last for 30 minutes best case, so you've eaten all those empty calories and incurred an unnecessary insulin spike for nothing essentially. Youll be hungry again within an hour.


The wait time is only 1.5 hours, even a mommys cry baby can wait that long.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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To put on mass you need to eat protein...carbs are used as fuel. A sudden insulin spike due to the sugar and white refined flour will just increase any potential fat storage. Gary Taubes wrote a book called "Good Calories, Bad Calories." It has a bit of medical-ease in it, but it really breaks down the process of gaining fat and how not to. Insulin is considered a fat storage hormone...keep that low, and you'll keep your bodyfat low.

If your seriously trying to put on some muscle, you need to really have a plan for your nutrition.

If you fail to plan, plan to fail!

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Old 01-17-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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A lot of folks here think eating a piece of cake is the end of the world. It's really funny.
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Old 01-17-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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A lot of folks here think eating a piece of cake is the end of the world. It's really funny.




whats the word for folks who come on to post about those folks thinking that...?
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Old 01-17-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The option isn't slow and steady


the option is


either go hungry or eat cake


a lot of people (especially health conscious people) will choose a slow slump in blood sugar rather than a sudden high and subsequent crash that eating the cake will give you, WITHIN the 1.5 hours. Satiation will only last for 30 minutes best case, so you've eaten all those empty calories and incurred an unnecessary insulin spike for nothing essentially. Youll be hungry again within an hour.


The wait time is only 1.5 hours, even a mommys cry baby can wait that long.
Insulin is a very anabolic (read: muscle building) hormone. Keeping insulin low while trying to bulk is again counterproductive, which is why bodybuilders use it often during their bulking cycles. You've shown once again that you don't know what you're talking about.

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To put on mass you need to eat protein...carbs are used as fuel. A sudden insulin spike due to the sugar and white refined flour will just increase any potential fat storage. Gary Taubes wrote a book called "Good Calories, Bad Calories." It has a bit of medical-ease in it, but it really breaks down the process of gaining fat and how not to. Insulin is considered a fat storage hormone...keep that low, and you'll keep your bodyfat low.

If your seriously trying to put on some muscle, you need to really have a plan for your nutrition.

If you fail to plan, plan to fail!
Except that Taubes was wrong about everything.
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