Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The link you provided is exactly relevant to her. She is an overfat beginner, the very type of person this article claims will be able to do this.
She's also not obese (and arguably borderline "overfat" in the context of that article) so that phenomenon is probably not going to last very long for her.
The context of this debate was another poster's suggestion to have the OP increase her caloric intake in a mass gain type approach, and other posters have since latched onto that suggestion. Go back and read posts #35 and #39 to see what I am talking about. What you and I are now going back and forth on now is easily more proof of why suggesting a mass gain approach for the OP is silly; whatever her "newbie gains" amount to and for however long that lasts, it can be obtained with any minimally intelligent style of training and still in a caloric deficit. Since I have openly said the OP should start lifting (see post #44), she's going to be pretty much covered on that front unless her training approach just absolutely sucks.
Perhaps I haven't been clear enough on my position against the OP taking a "muscle gain" approach being predicated on her being past the point where the newbie gains have tapered off. Hopefully now that is cleared up.
I'm at a point where I'm getting skinnier, but am actually gaining or maintaining weight. It's all muscle, mostly in my upper body now but I'm forcing myself to do legs so I don't end up looking like a gym rat (which I go to often, I just don't want to look like "a bro").
Still resigned to the fact that I'll never look like I did when I was 22 and winning PT competitions in the army again. And every time I injure myself in some way (which is somewhat often) I set myself back for months worth of progress.
But in regards to OP, I don't think there's anything wrong with that belly of hers, except for maybe that metal object protruding from her navel.
She's also not obese (and arguably borderline "overfat" in the context of that article) so that phenomenon is probably not going to last very long for her.
The context of this debate was another poster's suggestion to have the OP increase her caloric intake in a mass gain type approach, and other posters have since latched onto that suggestion. Go back and read posts #35 and #39 to see what I am talking about. What you and I are now going back and forth on now is easily more proof of why suggesting a mass gain approach for the OP is silly; whatever her "newbie gains" amount to and for however long that lasts, it can be obtained with any minimally intelligent style of training and still in a caloric deficit. Since I have openly said the OP should start lifting (see post #44), she's going to be pretty much covered on that front unless her training approach just absolutely sucks.
Perhaps I haven't been clear enough on my position against the OP taking a "muscle gain" approach being predicated on her being past the point where the newbie gains have tapered off. Hopefully now that is cleared up.
In your quote and the reply post, R. Glimore, technically, didn't say anything about increasing her caloric intake. She DID say the OP's appetite would increase with weight training, which is true. Your body is naturally going to need the calories to burn through a workout. So, commonsense tells you that if she's losing weight on what she's eating now and she's not working out, then she's not consuming enough calories to build muscle. But I think what you're misunderstanding is that we're not saying to increase caloric intake to the point where the OP is eating more calories than she can burn. At most, the OP needs to take in just shy of 1900 calories a day, while weight training, in order to gain muscle. That is not a lot of calories. It was also said for her to eat clean, healthy meals. Which means to keep her fat intake at or below her daily allowance so as to not gain fat while she's gaining muscle.
To simply say you gain fat when you gain muscle is incorrect. Fat and muscle are two separate things. One might gain fat while gaining muscle because they are consuming too much fat or too many calories for what is needed to build muscle, therefore, it's stored as fat. But they don't have anything to do with each other.
Have not had the time to read the entire thread, so apologize if this is something that has been already stated. While I understand the original question, I would venture to suggest that instead of focusing on just losing the weight itself you focus on becoming a stronger/more fit person. Add a weight training regimen as has been already suggested, to include high intensity workouts. Exercises like leg raises, sit ups, crunches, planks, etc. are not the only ones that strengthen the core; using compound movements, be it thrusters, clean and jerks, squats, you name it, also significantly contribute to a stronger and more fit core. Look at your diet and cut out processed foods and high carb products. It is all about a healthy balance IMO; if you train as a whole person and eat healthy, your body will continue to reach its most fit/healthy state, while in the process changing its appearance for the better.
Do sit-ups and leg raises 2x-3x a week for 15 minutes or so. Your stomach will feel and look flatter in 2-3 weeks.
I agree.
I did 300 sit ups a day......
150 in the morning, 150 in the afternoon....
That combined with fasting every
week for 24-48 hours......
Seriously affected my abs.
They were flawless
Honestly even now they're pretty amazing lol
In your quote and the reply post, R. Glimore, technically, didn't say anything about increasing her caloric intake. She DID say the OP's appetite would increase with weight training, which is true. Your body is naturally going to need the calories to burn through a workout. So, commonsense tells you that if she's losing weight on what she's eating now and she's not working out, then she's not consuming enough calories to build muscle. But I think what you're misunderstanding is that we're not saying to increase caloric intake to the point where the OP is eating more calories than she can burn. At most, the OP needs to take in just shy of 1900 calories a day, while weight training, in order to gain muscle. That is not a lot of calories. It was also said for her to eat clean, healthy meals. Which means to keep her fat intake at or below her daily allowance so as to not gain fat while she's gaining muscle.
To simply say you gain fat when you gain muscle is incorrect. Fat and muscle are two separate things. One might gain fat while gaining muscle because they are consuming too much fat or too many calories for what is needed to build muscle, therefore, it's stored as fat. But they don't have anything to do with each other.
I simply don't even know where to start with this post. I'm frankly a little surprised that you're under the belief that one has to eat fat to gain fat...which is erroneous.
In your quote and the reply post, R. Glimore, technically, didn't say anything about increasing her caloric intake. She DID say the OP's appetite would increase with weight training, which is true. Your body is naturally going to need the calories to burn through a workout. So, commonsense tells you that if she's losing weight on what she's eating now and she's not working out, then she's not consuming enough calories to build muscle. But I think what you're misunderstanding is that we're not saying to increase caloric intake to the point where the OP is eating more calories than she can burn. At most, the OP needs to take in just shy of 1900 calories a day, while weight training, in order to gain muscle. That is not a lot of calories. It was also said for her to eat clean, healthy meals. Which means to keep her fat intake at or below her daily allowance so as to not gain fat while she's gaining muscle.
To simply say you gain fat when you gain muscle is incorrect. Fat and muscle are two separate things. One might gain fat while gaining muscle because they are consuming too much fat or too many calories for what is needed to build muscle, therefore, it's stored as fat. But they don't have anything to do with each other.
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBain II
I simply don't even know where to start with this post. I'm frankly a little surprised that you're under the belief that one has to eat fat to gain fat...which is erroneous.
I read skinsguy37's post and I don't see where he made that statement.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.