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Old 10-10-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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Here's my problem with this though... most people aren't beautiful. In fact in the USA most people aren't even thin! So are we saying that only a small segment of the population ever is granted privileges? I see plenty of employed unattractive people, married unattractive people. So while people's initial reaction to someone might be based on looks, personality can overcome this once you've had some interaction. People with wonderful personalities, and/or who are highly skilled at their profession, are far more preferable than someone who just happens to be pretty.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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When I do it it does.
Omg. That made me laugh. I got a meal for free 2 weekends ago. I went to breakfast with my bf and it was awful. The eggs were hard and crispy and it was an omelet and the hashbrowns were burned and crunchy.

They asked how the food and service was and I told them about the food and said the service was friendly. The manager came over and took my breakfast off the bill.

I wasn't wanting to get it for free, but that was the outcome.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Demand and sweet don't really go together.
It totally works. All you have to do use polite and neutral language! And usually end with a smile. It works a very large percentage of time.

@nyanna I am picturing this conversation right now:
Dear manager, I noticed a few patrons received their food really quickly and I have been here for several minutes waiting to order. I am a regular patron here, and this is the first time I have been disappointed in your service........
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Omg. That made me laugh. I got a meal for free 2 weekends ago. I went to breakfast with my bf and it was awful. The eggs were hard and crispy and it was an omelet and the hashbrowns were burned and crunchy.

They asked how the food and service was and I told them about the food and said the service was friendly. The manager came over and took my breakfast off the bill.

I wasn't wanting to get it for free, but that was the outcome.
Different approach...same outcome. Free meal
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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It totally works. All you have to do use polite and neutral language! And usually end with a smile. It works a very large percentage of time.

@nyanna I am picturing this conversation right now:
Dear manager, I noticed a few patrons received their food really quickly and I have been here for several minutes waiting to order. I am a regular patron here, and this is the first time I have been disappointed in your service........
That is just not what I pictured at all, judging from the history of her posting here.

I know that you can behave in a civil manner and have things go your way. I do it all the time.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Here's my problem with this though... most people aren't beautiful.
True, it is a sliding scale though. People are attractive relative to everyone else.

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In fact in the USA most people aren't even thin!
It sounds like for you, being thin is a requirement for being attractive...... (another interesting point)

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So are we saying that only a small segment of the population ever is granted privileges? I see plenty of employed unattractive people, married unattractive people. So while people's initial reaction to someone might be based on looks, personality can overcome this once you've had some interaction. People with wonderful personalities, and/or who are highly skilled at their profession, are far more preferable than someone who just happens to be pretty.
Not necessarily. You never really know if you have been hit with "pretty privilege." Or it could be a combo of factors. It isn't 100% clear.

I notice, there are some situations where I get WAAAY better treatment relative to others. And others where the treatment is much worse. I also know that I probably get an outsized amount of free stuff in relationship to my perceived attractiveness. It could be because I am perceived as prettier than average. Or friendlier than average. Or that someone was having a really good day.

One really interesting example of pretty privilege is for people who have either lost or gained a lot of weight. There are of course some elements of thin privilege too, but generally speaking we equate thin with attractive, so I'd put it under the same bucket. Many women say, after losing a lot of weight, men are much nicer and women are meaner. It is likely related to perceived attractiveness.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That is just not what I pictured at all, judging from the history of her posting here.

I know that you can behave in a civil manner and have things go your way. I do it all the time.
I'm very passionate so sometimes I come across abrasive online. But IRL, I'm very polite and sweet. I'm not going to act a fool and wind up escorted out the restaurant by the police. No meal is worth all of that.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Up North
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I think of myself as average. One day I went out in public, dressed in sweat pants, and a baseball cap. Completely covered up. When I was crossing the street, someone nearly ran me over. They stepped on the gas pedal and tried to hit me. If I were dressed a lot better, I doubt that would have happened.

Race has a lot to do with this. I bet the woman in this article is White. I'm always reading these type of tales from white women.
Are you saying someone tried to run you over because you were dressed in pajamas and not showing off your body?
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Here's my problem with this though... most people aren't beautiful. In fact in the USA most people aren't even thin! So are we saying that only a small segment of the population ever is granted privileges? I see plenty of employed unattractive people, married unattractive people. So while people's initial reaction to someone might be based on looks, personality can overcome this once you've had some interaction. People with wonderful personalities, and/or who are highly skilled at their profession, are far more preferable than someone who just happens to be pretty.
Did you really think this through?

Since most people aren't beautiful, of course you will see plenty of employed unattractive people. The other option would be to go out of business instead of hiring an ugly person.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Are you saying someone tried to run you over because you were dressed in pajamas and not showing off your body?
Yes. I think the driver probably thought I was a bum. People have no respect for the homeless. And the fact that I was Black made it even worse. So they tried to run me over. If I were dressed a lot better that day, I doubt they would have nearly hit me.
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