[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

I sure am glad I sold my Florida home while it was still worth something, and above sea level. That sucker who bought it from me is in for One heckuva surprise 50 years from now when the waves are breaking over the roofline.

I took the proceeds and bought an electric car, and moved high atop Lookout Mountain in Tennessee. Now, I live off the grid 2,388 feet above sea level on the highest ridge. I bought 6 solar panels to power my electric car, and my laptop.

If my prediction does not turn out to be 100% accurate, I'll give you everything I own...including my Lookout Mountain property, electric car, & solar panels.

You forgot about the main problem living on top of a mountain! Fire travels up hill really fast!

You are a just a careless cigarette toss on a windy day away from your own perils!

[dothetwist]

Parts of other states will be far worse affected. When sea levels rise, they do not rise "equally." Other factors such as off-shore shelf patterns make a huge difference.

From: https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/rep...ions/southeast

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by dothetwist

Parts of other states will be far worse affected. When sea levels rise, they do not rise "equally." Other factors such as off-shore shelf patterns make a huge difference.

From: https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/rep...ions/southeast

Do you have a link to this map? TIA.

[dothetwist]

The link is in my post...it is farther down that page.

[jetgraphics]

How do we KNOW it's all a scam?
Because climate changes, but there is no evidence that MAN is causing it. (That's why they avoid anthropogenic when referring to climate change.)
Why aren't the ALARMISTS seeking common sense solutions?

● Ocean rising? Build polders, extensive levees and d_ikes, like the Dutch.
● Fossil fuel consumption is bad? Then only build superinsulated structures, shift from automobiles to electric trains (saving 90% in energy costs alone), and stop subsidizing waste and consumption!
● Wildlife habitat at risk? Build more habitat. Encourage the "Greening" of every flat rooftop. Engineer mountains to be more fertile habitat via terracing. Forget conservation and status quo - that’s suicidal - we need environmental AMPLIFICATION - to support more abundant life.

But no-o-o-o, Alarmists want money and power by taxing air and sequestering carbon (!) despite the fact that the #1 greenhouse gas is WATER VAPOR and plants need carbon dioxide to live.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

You forgot about the main problem living on top of a mountain! Fire travels up hill really fast!

You are a just a careless cigarette toss on a windy day away from your own perils!

The Chattanooga Choo Choo would wisk me to safety if a fire broke out. I got that covered!

[Scottamemnon]

I love how all of that web site's data is based on "Historical points".. aka 1971 to today... most of us on this forum have more historical data than that. Also its projected temps are all above the actual observed data.

[kmarc]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

How do we KNOW it's all a scam?
Because climate changes, but there is no evidence that MAN is causing it. (That's why they avoid anthropogenic when referring to climate change.)
Why aren't the ALARMISTS seeking common sense solutions?

● Ocean rising? Build polders, extensive levees and d_ikes, like the Dutch.
● Fossil fuel consumption is bad? Then only build superinsulated structures, shift from automobiles to electric trains (saving 90% in energy costs alone), and stop subsidizing waste and consumption!
● Wildlife habitat at risk? Build more habitat. Encourage the "Greening" of every flat rooftop. Engineer mountains to be more fertile habitat via terracing. Forget conservation and status quo - that’s suicidal - we need environmental AMPLIFICATION - to support more abundant life.

But no-o-o-o, Alarmists want money and power by taxing air and sequestering carbon (!) despite the fact that the #1 greenhouse gas is WATER VAPOR and plants need carbon dioxide to live.

That is one awesome post, and goes right to the heart of why I don't get into the whole climate change issue. When I read about the financialization and commoditization involved, I was out.

As you've said, if there truly was a concern, there are steps that can be followed to mitigate the situation. And they don't require a "Paris Accord".

Oh, and recycling anyone? Anyone? I thought it was a good idea, but it's dying an ugly death because China doesn't want our waste anymore, and no one can make a buck on it.

PS: I'm having a ball educating myself on prepping these days. You can learn a lot from it. Some preps seem to be needlessly complex, I reject those. But there's so much that can be done with simple, cost saving solutions in one's own life. You get to prep and live better at the same time.

[Enigma777]

Originally Posted by WRnative

The following article saying that one-eighth of Florida homes face inundation by 2100 is predicated on only six feet of sea level rise by 2100. We may experience 4 feet or more of sea level rise by 2070 if fossil fuel consumption globally isn't greatly reduced. One bad storm away from a rush for the exits? So ponders one quoted real estate developer, who said that 60 percent of prospective purchasers now are concerned by elevation.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ign=pockethits

https://www.zillow.com/research/clim...r-homes-12890/

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion...620-story.html

Changes in the national flood insurance program to account for sea level rise may impact the value of coastal property long before the properties actually face inundation. Higher sea levels raise the likelihood of higher storm surges during hurricanes, as well as other negative impacts, such as failing septic tanks.

Risk From Rising Seas Could Sink South Florida's Economy Before The Water Even Arrives | WLRN

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinio...das-waterfront

Who will pay the cost of clearing coastal environments of toxic materials and other environmental hazards prior to inundation?

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2...mility-review/

Miami is already experiencing rising water and issues with septic tanks.

Of course there is global warming and rising waters--we no longer have any semblance of a winter. When I lived in Miami in the 90s, I had coats, boots and sweaters and remember wearing them in December in South Beach. I have not had to wear a sweater or coat for 2 years. It seems pretty obvious.

A $3 Billion Problem: Miami-Dade

https://thenewtropic.com/climate-cha...c-tanks-miami/

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

I have not had to wear a sweater or coat for 2 years. ]

are you kidding....I'm way south of you and froze my butt off this year..it started the first of Nov and no breaks until finally a few weeks ago....I almost lost a greenhouse full of orchids this year..all of them

..and a few years ago we had a hard freeze for 3 days....ice in the fish pond