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And there you go again making unsubstantiated claims. Tell us how you came to the conclusion that vaccines given to Publix as untraceable. Are you familiar with the keeping of medical records? Apparently not.
Secondly, the Fed does not have a supply chain. They do not take physical control of the vaccine. The supply chain starts with the manufactures and is then distributed through 3PLs. All production number and timing are merely estimates. There are no guarantees. The manufacturing and supply of vaccines are very complex. A Governor would not be doing his or her job if he/she was not actively pursuing more supply. You keep making statements with very little knowledge.
Again, you are making extremely reckless posts.
I added cfenn006 to my block list some time ago. Now you can see why, lol.
That link is the FDA itself outlining the Clinical Trial Process. Notice the timeline of EACH PHASE. Do you maintain these Clinical Trials are 100% to the accepted process??? If you do there is nothing more to discuss or your case to attempt to talk down to me about.
Again, I base my information off the medical professionals with industry experience and what they advise, not City Data Doctors like yourself. When one of them tells me this whole process is rushed on a vaccine for a virus that had less than a year of R&D, with a long term limited supply that we will have to be proceed with caution and possibly take the 2nd outside what is advised if it's necessary at all. All that matters is that the evidence suggests (based on less than a year of CT) that the vaccine is safe. Nothing about being effective long term if you think there is, who is being silly then?
The link of studies you provided is off the Moderna website???
Really, ever hear of a company putting negative studies on their website?
I bet you buy stocks based off a company's forward thinking statements with that logic.
Apologize for DeSantis all you want. Florida is not being treated unfairly by the FED like he is attempting to spin it. The undeniable fact is that there isn't enough vaccines to go around, and his crying for more and accusing foul at White House just shows he is still not taking this seriously. His inability to properly track the vaccines delivered is a failure on his part, and the FEDs called him on it. He has nobody to blame but himself and his people.
Once again, you have no clue what you are talking about. Vaccines are submitted as BLAs and not as NDAs. You posted a link regarding drugs, not vaccines. Do you understand the difference? Apparently not.
You have still failed to show that the vaccines had conflicting data, despite making the claim.
You have failed to show anyone recommending a 2 week dosing interval. Even suggesting the use of a therapeutic that is not consistent with the label would be equivalent to practicing medicine without a license. Further, it is clear you are lying as second doses are shipped based on the dosing intervals.
The Moderna website, like every other company, posts the product label as approved by the FDA. It would be illegal for the company to change the labeled information.
The clinical data was peer reviewed and published in the New England journal. If you had actually looked at the Moderna website, you would have seen that they provided you the link to the New England Journal article. Tell us what data in that clinical publication is wrong or are you saying that the researchers in this study are all liars.
A Florida man who had been recently named “Paramedic of the Year” helped a supervisor steal COVID-19 vaccines meant for first responders, sheriff's officials said.
Joshua Colon, 31, forged the vaccine screening and consent forms to help cover up the theft of three vials containing 10 doses each of the Moderna vaccine, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said in a news conference Tuesday.
And there you go again making unsubstantiated claims. Tell us how you came to the conclusion that vaccines given to Publix as untraceable. Are you familiar with the keeping of medical records? Apparently not.
Secondly, the Fed does not have a supply chain. They do not take physical control of the vaccine. The supply chain starts with the manufactures and is then distributed through 3PLs. All production number and timing are merely estimates. There are no guarantees. The manufacturing and supply of vaccines are very complex. A Governor would not be doing his or her job if he/she was not actively pursuing more supply. You keep making statements with very little knowledge.
Again, you are making extremely reckless posts.
1) DeSantis admitted there is reporting “lag” problems in the administered vaccines. Here you go: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...upply/2368705/
Combine that with out of state and even country travelers coming to Florida getting vaccinated. Here you go again: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...y-u-s-n1255531
Combine that with using Everbrite to book vaccination slots. Yes, the same event management site that you can schedule the Book Club with Margret Atwood is where you get you get your life saving COVID vaccine: https://gritdaily.com/eventbrite%E2%...es-in-florida/
Where else can you get the vaccine??? Oh yeah, Publix, a supermarket.
Is it possible that the vaccines distributed to MEDICAL PROVIDERS who specialize in providing MEDICAL SERVICES failed to properly track and report the vaccines to the state?
Or
Publix rolling out a large portion vaccine distribution and some regions are them exclusively” https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...o5q-story.html
There is no denying that the state is failing to keep up to date records and tracking Publix, and Everbrite do not specialize in this medical services. I don’t’ think Everbrite can affect the numbers of vaccines reported directly have created confusion in the public. Then you have Publix who is not specialized in vaccinations on a large scale clearly taking on too much. Then who knows how many non-residents snuck in for vaccination tourism. It’s a total mess.
2) The FED has a Supply Chain team that evaluates and aids in distribution. The distribution of vaccines is based on population. Out of the three highest affected states, Florida has received a slightly higher distribution of vaccines to their reported population than either states. Here you go again: https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...inistered.html
Replenishing supply is going to require efficiently distributing the vaccine which isn’t happening, and timely and accurate reporting which isn’t happening either. Then DeSantis is shocked when the White House doesn’t up the distribution when he has surplus vaccines sitting around. Maybe that concept is lost on you, but Florida has received on of the most generous distribution of the states in dire need.
If you don’t like that post or those sources for whatever reason, fine we can agree to disagree. You want to continue to play DeSantis Advocate and COVID expert, have fun I got a laugh out of your nonsense but it is now getting as old as these posts. If that is too "reckless" or offends you, by all means send me to the blocked list too. I welcome a forum without condescending grandstanding people not worth my time, and sure you feel the same. I don’t need to take time out of my day sharing news and pages that are plastered literally everywhere.
1) DeSantis admitted there is reporting “lag” problems in the administered vaccines. Here you go: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...upply/2368705/
Combine that with out of state and even country travelers coming to Florida getting vaccinated. Here you go again: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...y-u-s-n1255531
Combine that with using Everbrite to book vaccination slots. Yes, the same event management site that you can schedule the Book Club with Margret Atwood is where you get you get your life saving COVID vaccine: https://gritdaily.com/eventbrite%E2%...es-in-florida/
Where else can you get the vaccine??? Oh yeah, Publix, a supermarket.
Is it possible that the vaccines distributed to MEDICAL PROVIDERS who specialize in providing MEDICAL SERVICES failed to properly track and report the vaccines to the state?
Or
Publix rolling out a large portion vaccine distribution and some regions are them exclusively” https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coro...o5q-story.html
There is no denying that the state is failing to keep up to date records and tracking Publix, and Everbrite do not specialize in this medical services. I don’t’ think Everbrite can affect the numbers of vaccines reported directly have created confusion in the public. Then you have Publix who is not specialized in vaccinations on a large scale clearly taking on too much. Then who knows how many non-residents snuck in for vaccination tourism. It’s a total mess.
2) The FED has a Supply Chain team that evaluates and aids in distribution. The distribution of vaccines is based on population. Out of the three highest affected states, Florida has received a slightly higher distribution of vaccines to their reported population than either states. Here you go again: https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...inistered.html
Replenishing supply is going to require efficiently distributing the vaccine which isn’t happening, and timely and accurate reporting which isn’t happening either. Then DeSantis is shocked when the White House doesn’t up the distribution when he has surplus vaccines sitting around. Maybe that concept is lost on you, but Florida has received on of the most generous distribution of the states in dire need.
If you don’t like that post or those sources for whatever reason, fine we can agree to disagree. You want to continue to play DeSantis Advocate and COVID expert, have fun I got a laugh out of your nonsense but it is now getting as old as these posts. If that is too "reckless" or offends you, by all means send me to the blocked list too. I welcome a forum without condescending grandstanding people not worth my time, and sure you feel the same. I don’t need to take time out of my day sharing news and pages that are plastered literally everywhere.
1. Your first link actually proves my point and also confirms what DeSantis is saying. Did yoU read the following comment in your link:
“ DeSantis has said the flow of vaccines from the federal government has been stagnant and the state needs more to meet the increasing demand from residents. He said the state has been receiving about 266,000 doses per week but has the capacity to administer more.”
Based on current population and the current pace of supply, it would take over 3 years to vaccinate everyone in Florida.
Your links in section one also fail to support your comment about vaccines being untraceable when going to Publix. You then went a step further with your lie by stating that Publix lacks experience is large scale vaccinations, when the truth is just the opposite. Pharmacies, such as those in Publix stores, have experience in administering vast numbers of vaccines. Have you failed to see how they routinely administer the annual flu vaccine as well as the shingles vaccine? They even advertise it broadly so it is amazing you don’t know this simple fact as well.
2. Your link is to CDC tracking data. The Fed does not have a supply channel team. Do you even know what a supply channel team is?
You might actually want to read your links before you post them as they don’t say what you think they say.
Meanwhile, you Failed to address earlier points:
1. You failed to provide any proof to back up your claim of a 2 week dosing interval
2. You failed to provide proof of your claim that the vaccines had conflicting data.
3. You failed to explain why you linked to the development pathway for an NDA, when vaccines are biologics and not drugs.
1) Whats your point? Florida needs more vaccines??? Doesn't everybody?
If you can't accurately and timely track and report the current vaccines you have administered, why do you think the White House is going to do a rush order another few million vaccines (which is not possible), especially when you are reporting over a million sitting in inventory? Makes no sense.
Its not going to take 3 years to get the whole state vaccinated, that's just being dramatic. Supply just rolled out, and more production efforts will be made.
How is Publix not being prepared to administer a mass vaccination effort a lie? When was our last pandemic? I don't remember a shingle or flu pandemic that had lines leading all the way to the bakery? There has been no explanation on the cause of this "reporting lag" he talks about. Where is it coming form? Hospitals? Health Care Providers? Clinics? Supermarket Pharmacy? What seems to fit???
"In December, Publix donated $100,000 to the Friends of Ron DeSantis political action committee, as reported by the Miami New Times"
2) The CDC Tracking Data shows the Vaccines Delivered and the Vaccines Administered. These are the figures that the FED's Supply Chain team is evaluating (Not Channel, that was autocorrect) the most dire need. They are clearly looking at this data, especially when the WH issues a statement that they have a over 50%. Compare that to California and Texas, and their population with vaccine distribution Florida has received more. Neither of those Govenors are trying to make the same noise DeSantis is.
The two weeks is the appointment my grandmother is scheduled for. Scheduled by her PCP. Medical Doctor.
Vaccine develop has not been transparent or smooth, in fact there is plenty of evidence that is is being rushed:
The NDA link was downloading as a PDF to my phone. I put the wrong link up hopping from link to link, my mistake.
The NDA time is shorter than the BDA, but still extremely cut and rushed as evidenced in the links I posted above.
Sorry you don't like what you hear.
It doesn't fit your narrative of DeSantis doing a great job and the White House is at fault.
You failed to answer most of questions I asked. back in the other page, just "yo yo" and insult, something I have grown to expect from the City-Data people in the Florida section.
1) Whats your point? Florida needs more vaccines??? Doesn't everybody?
If you can't accurately and timely track and report the current vaccines you have administered, why do you think the White House is going to do a rush order another few million vaccines (which is not possible), especially when you are reporting over a million sitting in inventory? Makes no sense.
Its not going to take 3 years to get the whole state vaccinated, that's just being dramatic. Supply just rolled out, and more production efforts will be made.
How is Publix not being prepared to administer a mass vaccination effort a lie? When was our last pandemic? I don't remember a shingle or flu pandemic that had lines leading all the way to the bakery? There has been no explanation on the cause of this "reporting lag" he talks about. Where is it coming form? Hospitals? Health Care Providers? Clinics? Supermarket Pharmacy? What seems to fit???
"In December, Publix donated $100,000 to the Friends of Ron DeSantis political action committee, as reported by the Miami New Times"
2) The CDC Tracking Data shows the Vaccines Delivered and the Vaccines Administered. These are the figures that the FED's Supply Chain team is evaluating (Not Channel, that was autocorrect) the most dire need. They are clearly looking at this data, especially when the WH issues a statement that they have a over 50%. Compare that to California and Texas, and their population with vaccine distribution Florida has received more. Neither of those Govenors are trying to make the same noise DeSantis is.
The two weeks is the appointment my grandmother is scheduled for. Scheduled by her PCP. Medical Doctor.
Vaccine develop has not been transparent or smooth, in fact there is plenty of evidence that is is being rushed:
The NDA link was downloading as a PDF to my phone. I put the wrong link up hopping from link to link, my mistake.
The NDA time is shorter than the BDA, but still extremely cut and rushed as evidenced in the links I posted above.
Sorry you don't like what you hear.
It doesn't fit your narrative of DeSantis doing a great job and the White House is at fault.
You failed to answer most of questions I asked. back in the other page, just "yo yo" and insult, something I have grown to expect from the City-Data people in the Florida section.
What’s my point? I am just responding to your points showing how you are wrong. Unlike you, I use facts.
Once again, you make more erroneous comments. Publix, like every other pharmacy operator, has extensive experience administering vaccines. With the exception of pediatric clinics, pharmacies are the most frequent point of vaccine administration.
You also don’t understand reporting lag. The injection sites submit information to their respective health departments after the injections. The health departments then consolidate theIr information. As that is rolled up and verified, it then is reported by the state. It is not a hard concept to grasp.
For the third time, the Fed does not have a supply chain. You still don’t understand what a supply chain is.
Your new claim is about the development not being smooth, yet not one link is about the actual development. The only thing that had anything close to being associated with the development was the link to patient recruitment for the J&J vaccine. The accomplishments we have seen to date are nothing short of astounding. Of course, this happened because large groups of people came together and vast amounts of money were spent. All of which is unprecedented.
On the approval pathway, it is not an NDA, nor is it a BDA. It is a BLA. You probably don’t even know how to look up the pathway for the current vaccines. Let me help you out once again:
If you haven’t figured it out by now, I have actually worked with companies involved in vaccines. Meanwhile, you got caught making things up in an attempt to build a political narrative against DeSantis. With each response, you just kept digging a bigger hole for yourself.
What’s my point? I am just responding to your points showing how you are wrong. Unlike you, I use facts.
Once again, you make more erroneous comments. Publix, like every other pharmacy operator, has extensive experience administering vaccines. With the exception of pediatric clinics, pharmacies are the most frequent point of vaccine administration.
You also don’t understand reporting lag. The injection sites submit information to their respective health departments after the injections. The health departments then consolidate theIr information. As that is rolled up and verified, it then is reported by the state. It is not a hard concept to grasp.
For the third time, the Fed does not have a supply chain. You still don’t understand what a supply chain is.
Your new claim is about the development not being smooth, yet not one link is about the actual development. The only thing that had anything close to being associated with the development was the link to patient recruitment for the J&J vaccine. The accomplishments we have seen to date are nothing short of astounding. Of course, this happened because large groups of people came together and vast amounts of money were spent. All of which is unprecedented.
On the approval pathway, it is not an NDA, nor is it a BDA. It is a BLA. You probably don’t even know how to look up the pathway for the current vaccines. Let me help you out once again:
If you haven’t figured it out by now, I have actually worked with companies involved in vaccines. Meanwhile, you got caught making things up in an attempt to build a political narrative against DeSantis. With each response, you just kept digging a bigger hole for yourself.
What I figured out at this point, after looking just 20 plus pages. You have just been camping out on this thread just spewing nonsense baiting people. Then and twisting their words while patting yourself on the back. I have to applaud you, I got sucked into it and that's on me. You got me.
All the City-Data warning signs were there 30 plus pages, the same few posters, and more grandstanding and discussions.
So Congratulations, you effectively trolled me out of doing anything productive... maybe I should be thanking you, I didnt feel like going outside anyway.
What I figured out at this point, after looking just 20 plus pages. You have just been camping out on this thread just spewing nonsense baiting people. Then and twisting their words while patting yourself on the back. I have to applaud you, I got sucked into it and that's on me. You got me.
All the City-Data warning signs were there 30 plus pages, the same few posters, and more grandstanding and discussions.
So Congratulations, you effectively trolled me out of doing anything productive... maybe I should be thanking you, I didnt feel like going outside anyway.
You started the process by posting lies in an effort to bash DeSantis. I responded to you by disputing your posts providing facts. You have yet to provide any links with facts that dispute the points made.
Face it, you got caught making things up and then proceeded to continue down that path instead of admitting your errors. If you didn’t start making these made up comments, we would not even be having this discussion.
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