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Old 06-27-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Peperoni are bell peppers in Italy. I meant what I said.

Peperoncini are another kind of peppers, smaller ones, similar to chilli peppers.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Even within a country, dishes mutate to suit local tastes. That's why you have Kansas City, Memphis, Texas, and "Carolina" all calling different dishes barbecue, and vociferous opinions about what style is best. It's also why you've got the ever-popular debate between NY-style flat crust pizza bought by the slice, and Chicago-style deep dish, what makes Buffalo wings "Buffalo," etc.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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We could send a dictionary to the Italians.... We know we're right Bell peppers are Bell peppers here. Seriously, I mean what I say. I like peperoncini peppers...
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Peperoni are bell peppers in Italy. I meant what I said.

Peperoncini are another kind of peppers, smaller ones, similar to chilli peppers.
missed the bell part.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:39 PM
 
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What foods/dishes are we used to have in the US (or in any other country) that do not really exist in their "country of origin"?!

Like "curry" and "chicken tikka masala" which became popular in England as Indian food, but are not really dishes in India?!

Or peperoni, which in Italy are actually bell peppers?!
That's funny. I am from India and I'm pretty sure I've had chicken tikka and curry there.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:41 PM
 
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Curry is an anglicized word for a term usually meaning "sauce/gravy" rather than "spices". (wikipedia)

It does not mean "spice" in its country of origin.

This is what the thread is about...differences between how food/dishes nomenclature is used in their countries of origin and other countries.

Anyway, even for the ones who would like to call it a "spice", spices are also a so-called "food item". Just clarifying.
Yes, but the actual food did and does exist in India. Which was your whole original premise.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Well, I am sorry then, this is the way I read/was told.
I see a difference between what I said, "different nomenclature" and what you said, "did and does exist" as "the whole original premise" of my post, though.
However, I am not a specialist in Indian food, just a foodie.

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Old 06-27-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Inman Park (Atlanta, GA)
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To George, I think maybe Chinese cuisine is the one that has the most dishes "created" overseas? I have a Chinese friend who tells me very few so-called "Chinese dishes" cooked overseas (in many countries) are really Chinese, most of them being "Chinese-inspired"(using ingredients/cooking methods that are somehow similar to authentic Chinese cooking)?!

Anyway, I went to an (according to my Chinese friend, I am not knowledgeable enough about Chinese cuisine) authentic Chinese restaurant and the food was fantastic!!
My father had Chinese restaurants and we just didn't have access to the same fresh vegetables that he would use if he was cooking "back home". My Grandfather had the first Chinese restaurant in Atlanta and his guests thought that it was "cool" to go have a steak in a Chinese restaurant. I would be amazed if anything on his menu was very authentic. In order to have a series of Chinese vegetables, my parents maintained a garden. Now, all the vegetables are readily available at the big Asian supermarkets.

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I'd love to go to a real Chinese restaurant, to see how different it is from what we're used to from Chinese takeout places.
It's totally different. My father served lots of Chinese-American dishes at his restaurant. I still love those dishes and secretly order them from a local take-out place close to my house

Sweet and sour is actually an authentic Chinese dish. It is a perfect example of a balanced - yin-yang dish. Something that is sweet and sour. Also red is a color that represents good luck. We would not have Sweet and Sour Pork but Sweet and Sour Pork Ribs. The pork ribs would be chopped very small in bite sized pieces but with the bone on. Sweet and Sour Pork was adopted to the American palate and thus was boneless.
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Old 06-27-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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Pepperoni is supposedly an Americanized version of a certain spicy Italian salami. The name pepperoni does come from from the word peperone, because paprika is one of the spices in it, which gives it it's red color.

Spaghetti and meatballs is an American dish.
Hamburgers, though inspired by a food supposedly originating in Hamburg, Germany, are all-American.
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