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Old 06-30-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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as an atheist, and a liberal, I would NEVER live in Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, ,Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas of course lol.

because everyone would hate me.
I don't get it. I have christian friends and jewish friends and other atheist friends. I don't understand hating people because they don't share your same ideas about unanswerable questions, like so many people in the bible belt do (notice that I didn't say ALL people, I said A LOT)
You're putting MO and KS in with the southern states?
Really?
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i'm scared of any state that doesn't have a "New" in front of it
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:32 PM
 
Location: The City
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i'm scared of any state that doesn't have a "New" in front of it

Is it difficult living in one of those without the new?
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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Nowadays, I'm pretty sure that if an argument like that ever took place, it would be because you started it, and that would make you the closed-minded one now wouldn't it?
Yeah, because you obviously know me. NOT!

Fix your name while you're at it. It's missing a letter.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Westcoast
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I would say the right to get married regardless of sexual orientation, the right for a woman to choose what she does with her own body without fear of discrimination or chastisement, and the right to universal health care are personal freedoms that I would never want to live without. Just my opinion though. All of these things are guaranteed rights in my state, Massachusetts, by the way. I can't think of a single red state with any of these rights.

Gay marriages have NEVER been a "personal freedom" in the US until VERY recent years. It's barely gotten off the ground and it is not going to change overnight. Give it time.

Every state can legalize abortion if they want to ~ as long as I'M not paying for it.

Universal healthcare? That issue was decades too late to fix, and I really do not believe it can be "fixed" without breaking our pocketbooks. If you can afford your health insurance on your own then good for you. To me, premiums that are even a third of a mortgage payment is NOT affordable.

States that try like Hell to inhibit my right to bear arms, or give sanctuary to every Tom, Dick, and Illegal that slips in, or attempts to tell me what I can and can't eat, or that I can't have my son circumsized . . . THIS is what I consider loss of freedoms.

Many states in the Bible Belt are also in Tornado Alley. They have bigger, more important things to worry about.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Gay marriages have NEVER been a "personal freedom" in the US until VERY recent years. It's barely gotten off the ground and it is not going to change overnight. Give it time.

Every state can legalize abortion if they want to ~ as long as I'M not paying for it.

Universal healthcare? That issue was decades too late to fix, and I really do not believe it can be "fixed" without breaking our pocketbooks. If you can afford your health insurance on your own then good for you. To me, premiums that are even a third of a mortgage payment is NOT affordable.

States that try like Hell to inhibit my right to bear arms, or give sanctuary to every Tom, Dick, and Illegal that slips in, or attempts to tell me what I can and can't eat, or that I can't have my son circumsized . . . THIS is what I consider loss of freedoms.

Many states in the Bible Belt are also in Tornado Alley. They have bigger, more important things to worry about.
I agree with several of your points.

But, you realize that without abortion, that's more people who will end up on welfare, which you will pay for anyway.

Then you have Deep South Bible Belt states that do inhibit personal freedoms thru an agenda of moral values for the mind, whereas California does it for the body.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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I've heard of black people being scared to travel through Montana.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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I agree with several of your points.

But, you realize that without abortion, that's more people who will end up on welfare, which you will pay for anyway.
Well, you have a point there.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: At the Root
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Yeah, because you obviously know me. NOT!
And you obviously don't know Mississippi. Guess it works both ways.

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Fix your name while you're at it. It's missing a letter.
No. It's CHALIE not CHARLIE...and don't forget it.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: At the Root
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I'm sorry, but as "open-minded" as northerners from the blue states claim to be, they have to be some of the most ignorant folk when it comes to knowing their own nation.

Honestly, both sides of the political spectrum are closed minded in their own special way. Conservatives and liberals are both idiots.
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