America, a regionalization

[callmemaybe]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

By 'shallow south' are you implying they're not as Southern?

Not as intensely, stereotypically southern, but not necessarily any 'less' southern. Just like the West Coast isn't as intensely American, but isn't any 'less' American (in fact, California is the face of television/film).

[le roi]

Originally Posted by callmemaybe

So, this is just one conception of regions.

not a bad map, i guess, but i'm not really getting the divisions of the south.

to me 'the deep south' includes the northern gulf coast region, and it's anywhere that slave agriculture once dominated.. which is stereotypical swampland, oak/pine forests with spanish moss, lots of cotton, few big cities, at least 30%+ black, maybe higher.

it should exclude anything that's part of the upland south (what you call "shallow south"), or the Appalachians, or south Florida.

in general my belief has long been that the Human geographical regions of the south were very heavily influenced by the agricultural regions of the south.

[le roi]

Originally Posted by cope1989

I think the deep south/upper south divide is becoming antiquated. It used to be a huge division but now I think the division is more east and west.


I like the idea of the South Atlantic (with the exception of WV) divided from the inner south. The coastal southern states have grown a lot more and have surpassed states like Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee in that way. They've become more diverse and cosmopolitan thanks to the growth of cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, and even Charleston to an extent. And I would include Florida in that region north of Orlando. South Florida is so unique that it doesn't fit into any region very neatly.

i agree. i've always thought that N. Florida, Georgia, SC, and NC were one unique region that was different from Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, or Tennessee. There's just something of a more feral, backwoods mentality in those 'western' states, especially Arkansas. I guess it's a question of how many categories you can fit on the map.