Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
16,082 posts, read 10,747,693 times
Reputation: 31480

Advertisements

The west coast is its own place and generates its own culture and vibe without reference to, or imitation of, the old north/south differences. Many/most communities in the western states from west of Texas north to Montana have no north/south cultural reference and you experience a stronger west coast culture and vibe the further west you go. There may be pockets of northeastern culture in places and a strong southwestern culture but not much of the typical north/south "divide".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:35 AM
 
24,559 posts, read 18,259,472 times
Reputation: 40260
Quote:
Originally Posted by eschaton View Post
You should be careful using contemporary politics as a guide to understand culture. As I said, the Dakotas and Utah are both areas culturally descended from Yankee stock, but despite many underlying commonalities (such as a communitarian spirit), they are very different now on politics.

Sure, but the prosperous urban Northeast isn't descended from Yankee stock, either. Only the rural places are like that and they're largely economic backwaters.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
17,795 posts, read 13,692,692 times
Reputation: 17823
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwalker96 View Post
Yeah anything past the plans is pure western. I know Bakersfield was influenced by like culture during the dust-bowl, and Wyoming had Texan migrants but most of the west is more northen influenced hence why the west stayed in the union while Texas was the only state west of the Mississippi to join the Confederate States.
Texas, Arkansas and most of Louisiana are west of the Mississippi. They all joined the confederacy.

The southern half of what was then New Mexico Territory which consisted of the southern half of both modern day Arizona and New Mexico formed the Arizona territory and seceded from New Mexico territory and joined the confederacy as a territory. The five tribes (while somewhat divided in loyalty) all signed treaties and fought with the confederacy.

After the Civil War southern Arizona and New Mexico continued to be somewhat southern for some decades. But over time that eroded. Still though there are some who maintain that Phoenix and Tucson were quasi southern towns into the 1920s or 1930s until the influx of Northerners became more prominent.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-26-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
21,631 posts, read 12,773,959 times
Reputation: 11221
Inland Empire, Southern + Eastern CO, NV, AZ, NM=South

WA OR ID, Northern and Western CO, Most of California= North

MT and WY are too mountain west to be called "West Coast"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-26-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
7,733 posts, read 6,462,510 times
Reputation: 10399
Oregon and Washington are northern.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-26-2019, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
4,409 posts, read 6,543,919 times
Reputation: 6253
There are three megaregions in the US. The north, the south, and the west.

The west generally being anything west of the frontier strip states, and perhaps the western portion of those states.

The western US broke the trend of direct westward settlement, and people from all over the east and Mexico AND Canada mixed and mingled from sandy desert to high pine forest.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-26-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
5,869 posts, read 4,210,466 times
Reputation: 10942
Easy. The line is between people who say "y'all" and people who don't. That line runs roughly from Missouri to where Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico meet, then sharply south to El Paso.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2019, 05:42 AM
 
2,323 posts, read 1,561,709 times
Reputation: 2311
Quote:
Originally Posted by SunGrins View Post
The west coast is its own place and generates its own culture and vibe without reference to, or imitation of, the old north/south differences. Many/most communities in the western states from west of Texas north to Montana have no north/south cultural reference and you experience a stronger west coast culture and vibe the further west you go. There may be pockets of northeastern culture in places and a strong southwestern culture but not much of the typical north/south "divide".
Perfectly reasonable and correct post. The West don't have that in their culture.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-28-2019, 04:10 PM
 
1,235 posts, read 944,208 times
Reputation: 1018
Oregon and Washington are Northwestern and California is Southwestern.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-29-2019, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
1,094 posts, read 809,221 times
Reputation: 1191
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie gein View Post
Texas, Arkansas and most of Louisiana are west of the Mississippi. They all joined the confederacy.

The southern half of what was then New Mexico Territory which consisted of the southern half of both modern day Arizona and New Mexico formed the Arizona territory and seceded from New Mexico territory and joined the confederacy as a territory. The five tribes (while somewhat divided in loyalty) all signed treaties and fought with the confederacy.

After the Civil War southern Arizona and New Mexico continued to be somewhat southern for some decades. But over time that eroded. Still though there are some who maintain that Phoenix and Tucson were quasi southern towns into the 1920s or 1930s until the influx of Northerners became more prominent.
I just included Texas since its the only state completely west of the Mississippi that joined the Confederate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top