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Old 06-27-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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If the presence of African Americans make a place more southern, then is Washington, D.C. more southern than NOVA? Is Maryland more southern than Virginia?
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Tcave360 the AA pop in DC reminds me of a combo of The Chi,Richmond, and Oakland for some reason
If you're talking about the metro region, I'd say Atlanta. Like Atlanta, a lot of the Black people you meet aren't originally from the region. In Prince George's County, for example, some of the growth was due to people leaving DC, but a lot of the growth also came from people moving into the county from outside of the region. The last three county executives--Rushern Baker, Jack Johnson and Wayne Curry--were from Georgia, South Carolina and New York, respectively.
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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What was it President Kennedy said about DC?

"Washington is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm ".
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If the presence of African Americans make a place more southern, then is Washington, D.C. more southern than NOVA? Is Maryland more southern than Virginia?
Is there a specific comment that's prompted this question?

I don't think anybody's weighting "southerness" by the number of blacks in a certain part of the metro area. It's not like the northern suburbs of Atlanta are any less southern than southern suburbs (culturally, that is) because there are fewer black people. What people have said is that the region (the entire Chesapeake region) was a slave economy, which resulted in a substantial black population, and that's characteristic of the South. There are no states in the Northeast where blacks make up 25+% of the population because large-scale tobacco cultivation really didn't exist.
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Is there a specific comment that's prompted this question?

I don't think anybody's weighting "southerness" by the number of blacks in a certain part of the metro area. It's not like the northern suburbs of Atlanta are any less southern than southern suburbs (culturally, that is) because there are fewer black people. What people have said is that the region (the entire Chesapeake region) was a slave economy, which resulted in a substantial black population, and that's characteristic of the South. There are no states in the Northeast where blacks make up 25+% of the population because large-scale tobacco cultivation really didn't exist.
There are a few southern states with a low percentage of African Americans. Kentucky, West Virginia and Oklahoma are in the single digits.
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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There are a few southern states with a low percentage of African Americans. Kentucky and Oklahoma are in the single digits.
They are in the single digits today. On the eve of the Civil War, they had relatively high black populations (with the exception of Oklahoma, which was Indian Territory in 1860).

In 1860, 20.44% of Kentucky's population was "colored." In Maryland, it was 24.91%. In neighboring Pennsylvania, it was 1.96%.

Besides, is anyone in their right mind really going to argue that a state with plantations and tens of thousands of slaves wasn't southern? And that that history has absolutely no bearing on the present day?
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (South Central Region)
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American geography arose occasionally in social studies and history classes, particularly when studying the pre-revolutionary period, sectionalism, and the antebellum period. By the time we had an actual course focused exclusively on georgraphy, we were studying world geography rather than U.S. geography.
Yeah I ended up learning about world history and other subjects related to American history in middle and high school.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (South Central Region)
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I mean, there were Confederate troops in Pennsylvania....
I learn something new today.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Traces of the tidewater accent goes up through Maryland also
As well as Northeastern NC I believe.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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It does reach in the NE area of NC, Banjan Yankee you think that the black ppl in the DC area share more similarities with ATL than say Richmond and Chicago??
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