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No, it's not surprising. It's 52% of Italian-Americans in the NYC area, not the entire country. There were plenty of 100% Italians in my high school, which wasn't that long ago. Their parents would be even less mixed. Many Italian-Americans have grandparents born in Italy, they wouldn't 1/8 anything. The first generation born here often stayed in the same Italian social circle, most didn't marry out.
Current NY governor is 100% Italian. I think all his grandparents were born in Italy.
Sorry, I forgot it's only in NY metro. It's still big for a city like New York with so many ethnic groups. How about those Italian/Irish or Italian/Puerto Rican mix that we see on TV and movies ?
I thought it was common in New York area
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It's all self-reported, so yeah... I'm half-Polish(my mom is 100% Polish as far as we know) and my dad's size is a mix of various ancestries. If someone asked me my specific ancestry, I'd just say Polish.
That's exactly what's interested me. Many people are in your case and only said two or three ancestries while they must have five or seven different ancestries.
Sorry, I forgot it's only in NY metro. It's still big for a city like New York with so many ethnic groups. How about those Italian/Irish or Italian/Puerto Rican mix that we see on TV and movies ?
I thought it was common in New York area
It is. There's still half left. Italian / Irish is more common. Also, there's a steep age gradient. I'd assume those who were born before say, 1950 are mostly unmixed while those born today 100% Italians are much less common.
It's not surprising they're so many unmixed Italians in NY or in general. They immigrated relatively late and many stay in their own community for at least a generation. More surprising is how many 100% Irish are left, particularly in Boston, since many if not most arrived in the mid 19th century.
Governor Andrew Cuomo was born in 1957 and all of his grandparents were born in Italy. Mario Cuomo (b. 1932) grew up in an Italian-speaking household and didn't learn English until he entered school. In the Cuomo family the first "multiple ancestry" Italians were the fourth generation, and presumably they were born in the late 80s and/or the 90s. That doesn't seem that unusual. There are still lots of elderly second generation Italian Americans born in the 1920s and 1930s around, a majority of whom would have married other second generation Italians. The third generation from the Ellis Island wave would have been mostly born during the Baby Boom years.
Plus you had a non-trivial immigration in the 50s and 60s, the descendants of whom would by now be majority American-born. That means there is a mostly-unmixed 2nd generation from that wave now in their thirties, forties and fifties.
In terms of its overall profile, Italian Americans in New York can perhaps be said to be "1 generation behind" Italian Americans generally. In other words it probably looks like the Italian American population in 1980 in terms of birthplace, language spoken at home and single vs. multiple ancestry.
It is. There's still half left. Italian / Irish is more common. Also, there's a steep age gradient. I'd assume those who were born before say, 1950 are mostly unmixed while those born today 100% Italians are much less common.
It's not surprising they're so many unmixed Italians in NY or in general. They immigrated relatively late and many stay in their own community for at least a generation. More surprising is how many 100% Irish are left, particularly in Boston, since many if not most arrived in the mid 19th century.
White ethnic population (Irish + southern and eastern European + Jewish): 915,000 38.8% (45% of NHW population)
Only about half of the Slavic population is Polish - lots of Slovaks also.
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