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Old 04-09-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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Plenty of people are just fine living in Fort Wayne Indiana, and Bristol TN and Missoula Montana. Not everyone wants to live in a populated place. Again not everyone is a rootless tumbleweed chasing jobs, for some folks staying in the town where your roots are and raising your kids in the home you grew up in means something even if you have to make sacrifices.


Houston is very urban, and trafficky, and filthy, and filled with undesirables, you couldn't get me there for $25million. Same with NYC, LA etc,
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Houston is very urban, and trafficky, and filthy, and filled with undesirables, you couldn't get me there for $25million. Same with NYC, LA etc,
You must have a very different definition of urban than I do. When I was in Houston, I found to be very unwalkable, and was surprised at how close to downtown detached single-family houses were. Seemed like one giant suburb to me. I've seen small towns in Pennsylvania which are more urban.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The facts speak for themselves. With a few exceptions, cities that size are increasing, not decreasing in population.
Looking at the population growth stats the question should be does the Northeast and rust belt have a future?
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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You must have a very different definition of urban than I do. When I was in Houston, I found to be very unwalkable, and was surprised at how close to downtown detached single-family houses were. Seemed like one giant suburb to me. I've seen small towns in Pennsylvania which are more urban.
Different people have different definitions of urban. To most young, urban professionals which is most City-Data posters, urban denotes a compact, walkable environment. To others, especially to those from smaller towns, it simply means a highly populated area in which Houston does qualify.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:35 PM
 
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"Small" cities aren't going anywhere. Personally, I consider 600-700k to be large. Small is more like 50-200k.

Like others have said, contrary to popular evidence, not everyone is an urbane, college-degreed, walking nut.

Some people like myself want an area that's fairly spread out and uncongested but offers all of the amenities of a larger city.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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Different people have different definitions of urban. To most young, urban professionals which is most City-Data posters, urban denotes a compact, walkable environment. To others, especially to those from smaller towns, it simply means a highly populated area in which Houston does qualify.
It's just way too crowded. Too many cars, too many homes and apartments on top of each other...too much

I'm 27 by the way. although I am technically blue-collar I would consider myself a professional I'm just not urban I was born in San Luis Obispo County in California, move to San Angelo Texas when I was 15, and now live in a suburb of Virginia Beach called Mathews....The only big city I really enjoyed is San Antonio but besides that I would love to live in a town of 300 people in the Texas Hill country or in Northern Arizona.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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My small city in Iowa is doing fine and quite diversified.
Cedar Rapids, Iowa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Cedar Rapids is one of the largest cities in the world for corn processing. The grain processing industry is Cedar Rapids' most important sector, directly providing 4,000 jobs that pay on average $85,000, and also providing 8,000 indirectly.Fortune 500 company Rockwell Collins is based in Cedar Rapids, and Aegon has its United States headquarters there. A large Quaker Oats mill, one of the four that merged in 1901 to form Quaker Oats, dominates the north side of downtown. Other large companies that have facilities in Cedar Rapids include Archer Daniels Midland, Cargill, General Mills, Toyota Financial Services and Nordstrom. Newspaperarchive, based in Cedar Rapids, is the largest newspaper archive in North America with a repository of more than 150 million pages assembled over 250 years; it was taken offline for two days by the 2008 flood." The University of Iowa is 25 miles south of Cedar Rapids and is the largest employer in the state.

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Old 04-09-2015, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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FWIW, here's a list of MSAs. You can see that as you go down the list in terms of size, it becomes more likely the whole metro will have a shrinking population than a growing one. Even at the bottom of the list though, most are growing, although virtually all the MSAs shrinking have less than 400,000 residents.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Looking at the population growth stats the question should be does the Northeast and rust belt have a future?
Yes and keep in mind that these are estimates, which were off during the previous decade.
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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Looking at the population growth stats the question should be does the Northeast and rust belt have a future?
Why would they not? Everyone can't move to the desert...that's not sustainable. Have you heard of the Great Lakes? They will become MUCH more important as this country grows.
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