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Old 12-23-2022, 02:50 PM
 
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Unauthorized Immigrants count for 11,000,000 people in the USA lol. Thats 1/3 to 1/4 the number you stress.
No new estimates are in the 20+ million range, 11 million is from like 1987 or something
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Weren’t there some errors or corrections of the 2020 numbers, though? These numbers don’t seem to reflect those corrections, like Hawaii was undercounted as was Illinois (which actually had a population increase above 13 million in 2020)…?

https://www.city-data.com/forum/illin...ssed-13-a.html

What happened with those corrections?
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Agreed with most of this. CT has a lot of people moving south (retirees) but sees even more influx from NY NJ and MA... mostly NY.

However, their calculations for more urban areas are way off. New York City and Boston... with rents at an all time high, vacancies at an all time low and persons per household ticking upwards... are not continuously losing people. Im not sure how they are counting growth, but its not working for our more urban areas.
Can you provide links to verify vacancies are at an al time high and persons per household are ticking up? I don't quite get what the implication here- the Census can get most things right but not northeastern cities.

Just logically with WFH in Boston being like the highest in the nation after SF, it wouldn't be as desirable. Im not even sure how fast rents are rising right now.

The pipeline of development is slowing in Boston all around too. Might be adjusting to this period in time.
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Old 12-23-2022, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Can you provide links to verify vacancies are at an al time high and persons per household are ticking up? I don't quite get what the implication here- the Census can get most things right but not northeastern cities.

Just logically with WFH in Boston being like the highest in the nation after SF, it wouldn't be as desirable. Im not even sure how fast rents are rising right now.

The pipeline of development is slowing in Boston all around too. Might be adjusting to this period in time.
Vacancies are at an all time low. Not high
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Old 12-23-2022, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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No new estimates are in the 20+ million range, 11 million is from like 1987 or something
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...nt-population/
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data...ation/state/US

You might be confusing foreign born (40+ mil) from undocumented.
Highest number I found was just over 11mil
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Old 12-23-2022, 04:49 PM
 
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...nt-population/
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data...ation/state/US

You might be confusing foreign born (40+ mil) from undocumented.
Highest number I found was just over 11mil
https://thehill.com/latino/407848-ya...nts-in-us/amp/

It’s from 2018 but basically this think about illegal immigrants is they’re illegal thus hard to find.

Due to that fact I don’t know if Yale/MIT found an increase or it’s vastly higher number is due to a different accounting method completely
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:17 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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The population is made official every 10 years. Everything else is a guess, but statisticians can form pretty very good estimates.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:36 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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But 2020 is showing CA decline, WA OR ID increase. Major change in the west. I think we are seeing the beginning of a major population change. Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Washington to gain.

Last edited by pnwguy2; 12-23-2022 at 09:46 PM..
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Old 12-23-2022, 11:05 PM
 
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The population is made official every 10 years. Everything else is a guess, but statisticians can form pretty very good estimates.
The counts might be just as flawed as the guesses.

At minimum, they're highly flawed.
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Old 12-23-2022, 11:53 PM
 
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I highly doubt New York lost that many people lol.

These estimates are silly...
Theres still over 8 million people just in the city. You can put a yo those cities metros inside of nyc and it still wouldn’t amount to how many people live in that 372 Square mile city.
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