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NYC, LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Oakland, Philadelphia, DC, Milwaukee, Buffalo, and Rochester aren't liberal?
Fair or not they aren't perceived to be as liberal as Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis or Denver, with the exception of San Francisco. There is a difference between Democratic supporting and liberal. New York in fact had Republican mayors until ten years ago.
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I just want to add that even if a city is majority minority and votes democrat it doesn't necessarily mean it's liberal. Keep in mind that many blacks vote democrat for certain reasons but actually are socially conservative. My southern home town (Macon, GA) is a majority black, democrat city....but the vast majority of these blacks are very religious Christian) and don't believe in same sex dating and marriage.
Fair or not they aren't perceived to be as liberal as Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis or Denver, with the exception of San Francisco. There is a difference between Democratic supporting and liberal. New York in fact had Republican mayors until ten years ago.
I certainly don't perceive Minneapolis, Seattle or Denver to be uber-liberal, either, absolutely not more than any other large city mentioned with larger minority populations.
Denver still carries a lot of that interior western Libertarian tradition and Minneapolis is still tempered by midwestern traditionalism to some degree. Seattle has to kowtow to one of the largest corporate behemoths on the planet, not exactly a hallmark of liberalism.
Portland is likely the only city to stand out here, although I can't say it's a shining example to highlight the benefits of progressivism right now.
Seattle treats Amazon and other corporate growth like the golden goose, taxing it as much as possible. We pile fees onto every new building and every high wage. They have to follow every height and FAR limit to the letter, like anyone else. That's one reason behind HQ2, as well as the shift of local growth to Downtown Bellevue across the lake, which has several new and UC towers.
I certainly don't perceive Minneapolis, Seattle or Denver to be uber-liberal, either, absolutely not more than any other large city mentioned with larger minority populations.
Denver still carries a lot of that interior western Libertarian tradition and Minneapolis is still tempered by midwestern traditionalism to some degree. Seattle has to kowtow to one of the largest corporate behemoths on the planet, not exactly a hallmark of liberalism.
Portland is likely the only city to stand out here, although I can't say it's a shining example to highlight the benefits of progressivism right now.
All of these 3 cities have socialist city council members while very blue but minority-majority cities like Houston or Atlanta don't.
Now don't get me wrong places like New York also have huge swaths that are just as liberal but they also have Staten Island and the Hasidic part of Brooklyn that dilute the liberalism.
All of these 3 cities have socialist city council members while very blue but minority-majority cities like Houston or Atlanta don't.
Now don't get me wrong places like New York also have huge swaths that are just as liberal but they also have Staten Island and the Hasidic part of Brooklyn that dilute the liberalism.
Eh, socialists could pull off a win in most big cities these days--even in "red states." Kind of par for the course but still only represents a relatively small contingent of voters in any city. They're just a loud minority.
Seattle treats Amazon and other corporate growth like the golden goose, taxing it as much as possible. We pile fees onto every new building and every high wage. They have to follow every height and FAR limit to the letter, like anyone else. That's one reason behind HQ2, as well as the shift of local growth to Downtown Bellevue across the lake, which has several new and UC towers.
But they'll never go "too far" as to ensure that they remain HQ'd in Seattle, no? I mean, WA doesn't even have an income tax. That's pretty Libertarian to me.
The state doesn't, but the city does, and it's a reaction to the growth in high-paying tech jobs, which the progressives blame for a lot of the city's ills.
With Seattle & Portland's tiny black populations, no wonder these cities were the center of the faux BLM anarchy in 2020 LOL.
I wouldn't call 7% tiny, and certainly not by West Coast standards. San Francisco, San Diego, Portland, and San Jose all have lower % of Black population than Seattle. Even Los Angeles is only 9% Black.
But they'll never go "too far" as to ensure that they remain HQ'd in Seattle, no? I mean, WA doesn't even have an income tax. That's pretty Libertarian to me.
You're totally right - Washington State as a whole feels quite libertarian with a lot of parts that are downright conservative. You don't even have to go that far from Seattle to find these areas. But Seattle proper is very left wing.
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