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Old 07-15-2023, 09:13 PM
 
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NYC, LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Oakland, Philadelphia, DC, Milwaukee, Buffalo, and Rochester aren't liberal?
Rochester is only 35% white.
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Old 07-15-2023, 09:24 PM
 
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I certainly don't perceive Minneapolis, Seattle or Denver to be uber-liberal, either, absolutely not more than any other large city mentioned with larger minority populations.

Denver still carries a lot of that interior western Libertarian tradition and Minneapolis is still tempered by midwestern traditionalism to some degree. Seattle has to kowtow to one of the largest corporate behemoths on the planet, not exactly a hallmark of liberalism.

Portland is likely the only city to stand out here, although I can't say it's a shining example to highlight the benefits of progressivism right now.
You are stereotyping here. Hennepin County (where Minneapolis is located) went 72% for Biden in 2020 (Also, St Paul went 73% for Biden). Both cities are more-to-much more Democratic than the burbs in their counties.
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Old 07-16-2023, 07:39 AM
 
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Rochester is only 35% white.
It appears predominantly white mean less black than Detroit
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Old 07-17-2023, 08:26 PM
 
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It appears predominantly white mean less black than Detroit
Yes, less Black than Detroit. There are more than 2 racial groups in Rochester.
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Old 07-18-2023, 02:40 AM
 
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white, non-hispanic, not asian. Are their any over 100K population?
I was thinking like 70% and above white.
Census often groups hispanics as white, I meant like N. European or similar whites.
By liberal I was thinking social welfare policies, such as Minneapolis had with their large Scandanavian population. Some surprises for me like Charleston, S.C.
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Old 07-18-2023, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Chi 'burbs=>Tucson=>Naperville=>Chicago
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Charleston

73.5% white

Mayor a Democrat

City proper pop. 153,672 (2022 Census Bureau estimate) votes blue reliably

Conservation innovation

80 out of 100 for LGBTQ rights and livability despite being one of very few blue islands in a deep red lake
I spent 8 days in Charleston last year. That place is not liberal. At least not in the historic area where all the restaurants are. In fact we even commented at how there weren't even people of color WORKING in the restaurants. And two of our Uber drivers had Let's Go Brandon blankets in the backseat. And there were a few stores with all their anti-woke paraphernalia for sale.

I'd never been in a more "elite whites" place in my life. Those voting Democrat there are probably remembering the Democrats of the 1800s.
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Old 07-18-2023, 04:27 PM
 
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^I spent a few days at a friend rental near Charleston in one of the gentrified sea islands.

It was very **not liberal** and felt like a plantation in some ways. Super white elite is one thing but set in a major slave port and knowing they are actively taking land away from Gullah people without a care in the world?

In the knee faux colonial shopped had 100% white staff and customers. A white man came up to me and a friend sitting by a dock and wanted to know where we were from, how old we were and began giving us life lessons and talking about racial color blindness.. I guess you could call that polite? Felt intrusive and inquisitive too.

And It's just felt conservative.
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Old 07-18-2023, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I spent 8 days in Charleston last year. That place is not liberal. At least not in the historic area where all the restaurants are. In fact we even commented at how there weren't even people of color WORKING in the restaurants. And two of our Uber drivers had Let's Go Brandon blankets in the backseat. And there were a few stores with all their anti-woke paraphernalia for sale.

I'd never been in a more "elite whites" place in my life. Those voting Democrat there are probably remembering the Democrats of the 1800s.
Charleston didn't feel that 'elite white' to me, at least not in the way Berkeley, Boulder or even Savannah did. I do agree with you that it didn't feel that liberal.
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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^I spent a few days at a friend rental near Charleston in one of the gentrified sea islands.

It was very **not liberal** and felt like a plantation in some ways. Super white elite is one thing but set in a major slave port and knowing they are actively taking land away from Gullah people without a care in the world?

In the knee faux colonial shopped had 100% white staff and customers. A white man came up to me and a friend sitting by a dock and wanted to know where we were from, how old we were and began giving us life lessons and talking about racial color blindness.. I guess you could call that polite? Felt intrusive and inquisitive too.

And It's just felt conservative.
We did the Boone Plantation tour. There were maybe 100 people on the tour at the same time.

3 black people. I expected more.

Also, north of the downtown area, there is a highly black neighborhood - light years different from where the tourists go. And one of our Uber drivers described how ALL the white kids go to private school, and the public schools are almost exclusively black. It's two totally different worlds down there, and 3-4 families who settled there in the 1600s still have a lot of control.
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Old 07-19-2023, 01:35 PM
 
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The state doesn't, but the city does, and it's a reaction to the growth in high-paying tech jobs, which the progressives blame for a lot of the city's ills.
Source? I find nothing about Seattle having an income tax. WA state has 2 W-2 income taxes that total to over 1%, paid leave and long term disability insurance, with the latter being a marginal income tax.
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