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Old 09-30-2009, 01:51 PM
 
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My point exactly...in any city, it depends on where you live. As for cities with rail transit, living in an area built around multiple stations is livable without a car.

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Old 09-30-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Town of Herndon/DC Metro
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DC also has one of the most extensive bus systems in the country, as well as the Circulator lines and soon-to-come streetcar lines (although the first one of those doesn't really lead anywhere; another topic for another time.)
I have lived in 6 states.

I believe the place with the best bus lines are actually in Philly- very extensive and covers the whole city plus inner ring suburbs.

Using buses is a hassle. Invariably, you are forced to transfer many times plus lots of bus lines do not run 24/7 (although many of Chicago's buses do). I had to come into the office at 4 am to help with Japan/Aussie business. No way was I taking a bus. But the train felt safer.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Well any city is doable without a car, it just depends on how much convenience you are willing to sacrifice.

On the west coast, San Francisco is probably your best bet for a car-less lifestyle - not having a car there would barely affect your quality of life. Portland would be the west's 2nd bet but neither San Fran nor Portland have it as easy as the older northeast cities.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:41 PM
 
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Well any city is doable without a car, it just depends on how much convenience you are willing to sacrifice.

On the west coast, San Francisco is probably your best bet for a car-less lifestyle - not having a car there would barely affect your quality of life. Portland would be the west's 2nd bet but neither San Fran nor Portland have it as easy as the older northeast cities.
Again...in any city, it depends on where you live. As for cities with rail transit, living in an area built around multiple stations is easily livable without a car
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:23 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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What are trying to prove by posting this poorly put together, high school grade, video AGAIN?
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:31 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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atl is not easily livable with a car, at least if you want to access the city... liveable? sure...in certain areas... you can't say chicago nyc sf then throw atlanta in to that "easy" grouping...they are on a MUCH different level. While you could *manage* without one, it would still behoove you to have one. Where as in Chicago or NYC it can be a downright ANNOYANCE to own a car... major difference.
I certainly could not honestly recommend atlanta to a person on city data asking where it would be easy to live without a car.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:23 PM
 
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I've lived in Wilmington (DE), Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Minneapolis (and even a small town in VA) without driving. DC, LA, and San Francisco were all very easy, assuming you pick the right neighborhood; Minneapolis isn't quite as good (not quite as many neighborhoods are truly easily livable for those without a car and the public transit isn't as good as LA, SF, or DC, so your choices are more limited; on the upside, the neighborhoods are very nice and far more affordable than those other cities), but still very doable.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:02 AM
 
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SF is so small that the public transportation covers almost everywhere very well. The suburban neighborhoods of Richmond and Sunset are not as doable, but most other areas are. Mission District has very good public transportation.

NYC, Boston, DC, and Chicago are obvious choices. Living as far into the city as possible is your best bet for extreme car independence. Downtown Portland and Seattle could work very easily as well.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Spain
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SF is so small that the public transportation covers almost everywhere very well. The suburban neighborhoods of Richmond and Sunset are not as doable, but most other areas are. Mission District has very good public transportation.

NYC, Boston, DC, and Chicago are obvious choices. Living as far into the city as possible is your best bet for extreme car independence. Downtown Portland and Seattle could work very easily as well.
Especially since Portland has direct light rail service to the airport from downtown. If I ever moved back to Portland I probably would have a car only because I have family living in different parts of the city, but I wouldn't need one. Seattle, too, I believe either already has light rail service to SEA-TAC airport or at least plans to in the near future. And if you think about it, if you can get into and out of the city (airport) without needing a car, then pretty much all bases are covered.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:47 AM
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Location: Queens, NY
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obviously NYC is the most walkable city on U.S. soil.
my grandmother was 65 before she got her license (for example). its actually not a good thing to own a car IMHO because of the hassle. the train service is obviously the best in the nation as well.

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i think we have the best bus system in the country as well.




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