Gubernatorial Race 2018 (inexpensive, vegan, driving)

[CaliDreaming01]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

These polls are really so close that it's a toss up.

Yeah, that is what it's looking like. I've been waiting to see if Kemp starts to pull away just like in past elections, but based on these responses, I think the race is going to remain close. It does not seem like there is going to be a sudden swell of GOP support.

[AnsleyPark]

Originally Posted by CaliDreaming01

Yeah, that is what it's looking like. I've been waiting to see if Kemp starts to pull away just like in past elections, but based on these responses, I think the race is going to remain close. It does not seem like there is going to be a sudden swell of GOP support.

Yep. Boy, I sure hope that everyone gets out and votes. Regardless of one's political affiliation, this is a very important contest for all Georgians.

[A-Town Down]

I wish Kemp would've resigned as Secretary of State, or at the very least ensured the votes were secure and impossible to hack. At this point, I would feel iffy and untrusting of a Kemp victory tbh. Although a victory from him could very well be legitimate, the conflict of interest would always make me question whether his role as SoS gave him an "in," more so than a "win."

[bryantm3]

it's weird that you're seeing the polls shift right in other places around the country and not here. it could be that dems are continuing to lose rust belt and midwestern voters but gaining voters in the south.



based on the poll results i think a libertarian leaning democrat might be a good fit for the state. it seems like georgians are left-of-center on the medicaid expansion and decriminalization/legalization of cannabis, but on stuff like guns and other social issues georgia is right-of-center.

[seussie]

well, eric holder’s stumping line about “kicking republicans” when they “go low” is going to get some air time and will be great soundbytes for the competing party to argue that proud democrats want to punch them like nazis. I wonder if Abrams is shaking her head right now.

[CaliDreaming01]

Originally Posted by seussie

well, eric holder’s stumping line about “kicking republicans” when they “go low” is going to get some air time and will be great soundbytes for the competing party to argue that proud democrats want to punch them like nazis. I wonder if Abrams is shaking her head right now.

I really don't see anything wrong with what Eric Holder said. In fact, I think part of the Democrats problem is being too passive and not expressing any kind of outrage even when it is warranted. The Republicans have done and said much worse, and they are the ones controlling all three branches of government right now.

Also, Republicans accuse Democrats of being radicals no matter what anyway. I think the Dems should just put the GOP and the media on ignore for a while and concentrate on speaking to voters.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll

Lol, I never said that I "understand" Republicans and I never claimed to be an expert on Republicans.

I was just making a point (a point that you underscored) in response to CaliDreaming01's question asking if more moderate GOP voters like white suburban women were energized in favor of Republicans after the Kavanaugh controversy going into the November mid-term elections.

There are and will be lots of female voters who will be energized to vote against Republicans after the Kavanaugh controversy, but (as you also mentioned) there will also be many moderate female GOP voters (who can also be partisan voters, even as moderates) who will be energized to vote for Republicans after the Kavanaugh controversy for the reasons that I mentioned in my post that you responded to.

Overall, female voter turnout is likely to be up noticeably in red, blue and purple precincts across the country.

Republican candidates are likely to benefit from the increased female voter turnout in the deepest of deep red states while Democratic candidates are likely to benefit from increased female voter turnout in the bluer states.

In a state like Georgia that has been deep red since about the turn-of-the-Millennium but appears to be trending heavily towards purple status on the strength of continued explosive population growth throughout much of the Atlanta metropolitan area, it remains to be seen which party will be the ultimate beneficiary of what figures to be noticeably increased levels of female voter turnout.

Republicans have long benefitted from the suburban moderate white female vote, but Karen Handel's narrow victory in a special congressional election last year in a Georgia 6th Congressional District where the GOP had for decades held a double-digit advantage indicates that a noticeable chunk of the moderate white vote (particularly the moderate white female vote) may be starting to shift away from the Republican Party.

During the Trump era, that suburban moderate white female vote does not appear to be as rock-solid dependable for Republicans as it might have been in years and decades past in the traditionally Republican-dominated Atlanta suburbs.

There have already been signs for awhile that Georgia (on the strength of explosive growth in the Atlanta suburbs) was slowly shifting towards some of the same political, cultural and social changes that a formerly deep-red (but now increasingly blue-trending purple) state like Virginia has gone through over the last 15 years or so on the strength of explosive growth in the Washington, D.C. suburbs.

The risk for Georgia Republicans is that the Trump era seems to have the potential (but not necessarily the absolute promise) to speed up some of those dramatic political, social and cultural changes that has shifted a Southeastern state like Virginia from deep-red to bluish-purple.

I don't think the people are changing their minds in those districts as much as the districts are changing. The middle suburbs like Dunwoody are changing economically as well as ethnically as they age.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by CaliDreaming01

I really don't see anything wrong with what Eric Holder said. In fact, I think part of the Democrats problem is being too passive and not expressing any kind of outrage even when it is warranted. The Republicans have done and said much worse, and they are the ones controlling all three branches of government right now.

Also, Republicans accuse Democrats of being radicals no matter what anyway. I think the Dems should just put the GOP and the media on ignore for a while and concentrate on speaking to voters.

You don't because it doesn't affect you. First they came for the socialists, but I was not a socialist....These sorts of things make Republicans think the Democrats are off their rockers and dangerous.

[bu2]

Ads started out pretty positive. TV ads have shifted to negative on both sides. I'm getting flooded with negative mail ads attacking Kemp (I'm in Dekalb which is 80% Democratic).

[hilltop180]

The polls have been real close. Mostly 2 pt difference:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rams-6628.html

Another interesting story which will help Abrams:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...INYVWfqMtFK7O/

It's still really hard to tell what will happen. A lot of people think it will be like the Trump election and Republicans will rack up. I do know the turnout for black voters was high in the primaries. Abrams is really rallying her base. I think they have a debate on 10/23. I think she will need to have a strong showing. Going to be an interesting election.