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If that is true and I don't think it is, it will come out in the suit if it goes to trial. We do not know what was said between the person in charge and the father. I don't think any father would ever be more concerned about anything more than the health of his child.
...except for the racist that felt the need to ask that NO Black nurses attend to the health needs of his child.
The supervising nurse on staff who actually agreed to the father's request needs to be terminated. She actually placed the arbitruary (and inappropriate) request of a patient's father over the needs of the patient. Ridiculous decision making such as this is to the detriment of all patients who were under her supervisory care.
So if there was an emergency (ie infant went into cardiac arrest) in the NICU and the non-Black nurse was not immediately available to attend to the child, was the Black nurse supposed to simply stand by and wait for a non-Black nurse to hopefully reach the patient in time to provide care?
Was the father of this child offering to pay for a private duty, non-Black nurse if one wasn't already on staff to cover all 24 hour shifts?
I think that is over the top unless the person lost her job or income because of this decision.
So we should accept racism and discrimination unless we lose our jobs or income? Maybe we should accept separate bathrooms for blacks and whites since everyone can still use the bathroom? Or ban Jews from some restaurants since they can just go to other restaurants. No real harm, right? Heck, maybe black nurses should accept just changing bed pans since they don't lose out on any income and still get to keep their jobs. That should also be acceptable, right?
...except for the racist that felt the need to ask that NO Black nurses attend to the health needs of his child.
The supervising nurse on staff who actually agreed to the father's request needs to be terminated. She actually placed the arbitruary (and inappropriate) request of a patient's father over the needs of the patient. Ridiculous decision making such as this is to the detriment of all patients who were under her supervisory care.
So if there was an emergency (ie infant went into cardiac arrest) in the NICU and the non-Black nurse was not immediately available to attend to the child, was the Black nurse supposed to simply stand by and wait for a non-Black nurse to hopefully reach the patient in time to provide care?
Was the father of this child offering to pay for a private duty, non-Black nurse if one wasn't already on staff to cover all 24 hour shifts?
His child would die and that would be his own fault. Of course, he'd probably sue the hospital anyway, but he'd still have killed his own child due to his actions.
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Originally Posted by Lizita
So we should accept racism and discrimination unless we lose our jobs or income? Maybe we should accept separate bathrooms for blacks and whites since everyone can still use the bathroom? Or ban Jews from some restaurants since they can just go to other restaurants.
Nope. We should only tolerate it in health care settings. Problem solved. No slippery slope nonsense.
If the father was simply concerned about the health of his baby he wouldn't have made the demand that black nurses not be allowed to care for his child.
A parent who isn't racist wouldn't even think about the race of the nurse.
I think, as innocent as it is, you guys are missing the point. IN medicine, we are taught NOT TO PASS JUDGEMENT OR ACT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING OUR PATIENTS NEED!!!
I have seens some STRANGE stuff in my day, but you are to keep a straight face (no matter how hard), not look shocked or even frightened (altho I HAVE been by some of the stuff I have seen/heard) and render care to the best of your ability for the good of the patient....have I seen folks of a "different persuasion" than me get sexual toys with batteries included stuck in their anus....YES. Do people with certain "desires/needs" make you wonder WTH???? on a regular basis...YES! But your JOB, as a health care professional is to say, "treat the patient as best you can to meet their needs making them as comfortable as possible" and do your JOB. Now, if the lady had lost wages, job or position, no issues. But in this day and age, if someone stupid enough (and yes, passing judgement because I am NOT rendering health care) to have a antisemetic tatoo on their body asks me to take a black or jewish care giver off the case), I would do so in a NY second to protect both the caregivers from any and all false accusations AND to render the care that was requested based on their belief/thoughts...regardless of how "warped" I personally find them.
People ARE crazy....and the thought of a situation being created that can be avoided in a health care facility should be the #1 priority...keep EVERYONE safe.
...except for the racist that felt the need to ask that NO Black nurses attend to the health needs of his child.
The supervising nurse on staff who actually agreed to the father's request needs to be terminated. She actually placed the arbitruary (and inappropriate) request of a patient's father over the needs of the patient. Ridiculous decision making such as this is to the detriment of all patients who were under her supervisory care.
So if there was an emergency (ie infant went into cardiac arrest) in the NICU and the non-Black nurse was not immediately available to attend to the child, was the Black nurse supposed to simply stand by and wait for a non-Black nurse to hopefully reach the patient in time to provide care?
Was the father of this child offering to pay for a private duty, non-Black nurse if one wasn't already on staff to cover all 24 hour shifts?
What if, in an emergency situation, the father called 9-1-1 and the ambulance showed up at his house with two black medics?
I think, as innocent as it is, you guys are missing the point. IN medicine, we are taught NOT TO PASS JUDGEMENT OR ACT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING OUR PATIENTS NEED!!!
I have seens some STRANGE stuff in my day, but you are to keep a straight face (no matter how hard), not look shocked or even frightened (altho I HAVE been by some of the stuff I have seen/heard) and render care to the best of your ability for the good of the patient....have I seen folks of a "different persuasion" than me get sexual toys with batteries included stuck in their anus....YES. Do people with certain "desires/needs" make you wonder WTH???? on a regular basis...YES! But your JOB, as a health care professional is to say, "treat the patient as best you can to meet their needs making them as comfortable as possible" and do your JOB. Now, if the lady had lost wages, job or position, no issues. But in this day and age, if someone stupid enough (and yes, passing judgement because I am NOT rendering health care) to have a antisemetic tatoo on their body asks me to take a black or jewish care giver off the case), I would do so in a NY second to protect both the caregivers from any and all false accusations AND to render the care that was requested based on their belief/thoughts...regardless of how "warped" I personally find them.
People ARE crazy....and the thought of a situation being created that can be avoided in a health care facility should be the #1 priority...keep EVERYONE safe.
I have seen patients get extremely angry when asked to pay their co-pay for an office visit, or fly into a rage at the hospital when ER charges were being discussed.
If avoiding situations is the #1 priority I guess we should stop asking patients to pay for services rendered.
People cause situations all the time over all different situations. Once in a pediatric office where I worked a mom became enraged when she turned the waiting room tv from a Disney cartoon to Jerry Springer, and the office manager told her she couldn't watch Springer when there was a roomful of children. Should we remove tvs in waiting rooms to avoid situations?
I think, as innocent as it is, you guys are missing the point. IN medicine, we are taught NOT TO PASS JUDGEMENT OR ACT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING OUR PATIENTS NEED!!!
I have seens some STRANGE stuff in my day, but you are to keep a straight face (no matter how hard), not look shocked or even frightened (altho I HAVE been by some of the stuff I have seen/heard) and render care to the best of your ability for the good of the patient....have I seen folks of a "different persuasion" than me get sexual toys with batteries included stuck in their anus....YES. Do people with certain "desires/needs" make you wonder WTH???? on a regular basis...YES! But your JOB, as a health care professional is to say, "treat the patient as best you can to meet their needs making them as comfortable as possible" and do your JOB. Now, if the lady had lost wages, job or position, no issues. But in this day and age, if someone stupid enough (and yes, passing judgement because I am NOT rendering health care) to have a antisemetic tatoo on their body asks me to take a black or jewish care giver off the case), I would do so in a NY second to protect both the caregivers from any and all false accusations AND to render the care that was requested based on their belief/thoughts...regardless of how "warped" I personally find them.
People ARE crazy....and the thought of a situation being created that can be avoided in a health care facility should be the #1 priority...keep EVERYONE safe.
Thank you for an educated answer. People that have not worked for the public for years have no understanding of the tightrope walking public servants do on a daily basis. Yes, there were many time when I could have said "poor little me" and sued but out of respect for the place you work, you do not do it IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. You work together with the rest of the staff to make a team and comfort each other in the back room. It was already established early in the thread that this hospital was not a racist environment. Amazing how people want to twist things for their own agenda. Sounds to me like the situation was handled in a very professional manner for the betterment of everybody involved. And no I do not think the supervisor should be fired. People with good judgment are hard to find and she had very good judgment about the situation.
This lawsuit is nothing beside of the suit they could have had if the baby had died after the parents request had been denied. The employee was protected from a law suit and the patient was reassured.
I think, as innocent as it is, you guys are missing the point. IN medicine, we are taught NOT TO PASS JUDGEMENT OR ACT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING OUR PATIENTS NEED!!!
This is false.
Patients are allowed to make crazy requests to a limit and most places allow gender requests in very limited circumstances.
I think, as innocent as it is, you guys are missing the point. IN medicine, we are taught NOT TO PASS JUDGEMENT OR ACT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING OUR PATIENTS NEED!!!
I have seens some STRANGE stuff in my day, but you are to keep a straight face (no matter how hard), not look shocked or even frightened (altho I HAVE been by some of the stuff I have seen/heard) and render care to the best of your ability for the good of the patient....have I seen folks of a "different persuasion" than me get sexual toys with batteries included stuck in their anus....YES. Do people with certain "desires/needs" make you wonder WTH???? on a regular basis...YES! But your JOB, as a health care professional is to say, "treat the patient as best you can to meet their needs making them as comfortable as possible" and do your JOB. Now, if the lady had lost wages, job or position, no issues. But in this day and age, if someone stupid enough (and yes, passing judgement because I am NOT rendering health care) to have a antisemetic tatoo on their body asks me to take a black or jewish care giver off the case), I would do so in a NY second to protect both the caregivers from any and all false accusations AND to render the care that was requested based on their belief/thoughts...regardless of how "warped" I personally find them.
People ARE crazy....and the thought of a situation being created that can be avoided in a health care facility should be the #1 priority...keep EVERYONE safe.
Patients are not allowed to dictate their entire medical treatment and you know that. A hospital patient can't demand a six pack of beer every day during his hospitalization or the right to smoke in his room.
The medical profession should--within reason--attempt to make patients comfortable. The whole point that you and a couple of others don't seem to get is that a request to have healthcare provided only by people of a particular race is not a reasonable request. It doesn't pertain to safety. It doesn't pertain to skill. Unlike a woman's request to be seen by a woman doctor it has nothing to do with modesty either. (I find that request questionable, but I don't put it in the same category as one that is based purely on race)
Do you think the hospital ought to simply ignore Title VII of the Civil Rights Act?
What would you think if hospitals got away with this sort of thing, if supervisors slowly stopped hiring black nurses and staff because they didn't want to be in this position again?
What other requests by patients do you think ought to be granted? I've mentioned the ones involving drinking beer and smoking cigarettes? How about continuing their illegal drug habits? After all, you seem to think we should ignore Civil Rights laws so that we can make a patient more comfortable.
I think you are confusing the notion of acting within reason to make a patient feel more at ease with the notion of giving them everything they want. I know there are some supervisors in the work world who try to do that sort of thing. They are mistaken.
I'm starting to understand just why its been so hard for blacks and other minorities to achieve something close to equality of rights in this country. Attitudes like this continue to hold some of them back.
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