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Yeah, I want my people to survive. Collective suicide does not appeal to me in the slightest. So to do that, we need to reproduce more. Even having 2 children is below the replacement level. So those who claim they can balance work and raising a family so easily, but only have 1-2 children, are very unconvincing to me.
The current overpopulation and resulting pollution and lack of resources are what is collective suicide. Better to have fewer humans and good quality of life for everyone than to have billions living in misery.
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Yeah, I want my people to survive. Collective suicide does not appeal to me in the slightest. So to do that, we need to reproduce more. Even having 2 children is below the replacement level. So those who claim they can balance work and raising a family so easily, but only have 1-2 children, are very unconvincing to me.
That's the great thing about this country. People have choices, they're not forced to do things. Women can choose whether they want to have kids or not. They can choose how many they want. They can choose if they want to stay home or have a job. Your opinion on what you believe women should do is totally irrelevant.
No one's tax dollars are paying for anyone's abortion so don't worry.
This! Not that you will convince him. That RWNJ in Oregon racked up six figures of our tax dollars in paying for the thousands of man-hours of FBI agent overtime mainly because he is convinced that his tax dollars are paying for abortions. No matter how many times you tell them, no matter how many women are interviewed that pay cash for their terminations...
Abortion is always wrong under any circumstance except if the woman is at risk of dying. It's immoral killing a human being and a fetus is a human being in the moment of conception. Therefore abortion is immoral and should be illegal.
Abortion is always wrong under any circumstance except if the woman is at risk of dying. It's immoral killing a human being and a fetus is a human being in the moment of conception. Therefore abortion is immoral and should be illegal.
Rape? ten kids and no father to help support? No home to give the child.. give me a break.
Rape? ten kids and no father to help support? No home to give the child.. give me a break.
Should poor people be allowed to kill their born children because they're financially unstable? Is it morally permissible? If it's not, It's just as immoral to kill a fetus because you have no conditions to raise it.
As for rape the child is totally innocent and doesn't deserve to die because of the crime of someone else. I don't know how some pro-lifers support abortion in case of rape. It's still immoral to kill a fetus that was conceived because of rape, that human life has the same value as anybody else.
For those who favor abortion in cases of rape consider this analogy--Imagine if a doctor in a fertility clinic used a woman's egg without her permission and fertilized it with his sperm and then implanted the embryo in his wife's womb and she delivered the baby. The woman who owns the eggs would have a right to kill the baby that was made without her consent?
Should poor people be allowed to kill their born children because they're financially unstable? Is it morally permissible? If it's not, It's just as immoral to kill a fetus because you have no conditions to raise it.
As for rape the child is totally innocent and doesn't deserve to die because of the crime of someone else. I don't know how some pro-lifers support abortion in case of rape. It's still immoral to kill a fetus that was conceived because of rape, that human life has the same value as anybody else.
For those who favor abortion in cases of rape consider this analogy--Imagine if a doctor in a fertility clinic used a woman's egg without her permission and fertilized it with his sperm and then implanted the embryo in his wife's womb and she delivered the baby. The woman who owns the eggs would have a right to kill the baby that was made without her consent?
What? No. The owner of the body incubating the embryo gets to choose whether to continue allowing it. The owner of the sperm has no say in whether someone else's body continues to gestate, nor does an egg donor have any say over the body of a surrogate mother. We don't even allow dead people's bodies to be used by others (e.g., organ donation, science, cadavers) without their consent. I'm personally opposed to abortion, but we don't force people to allow others to use their organs here. There is no way around it.
I don't mind abortion as long as my tax dollars aren't paying for it.
We live in a representative democracy of 320+ million people. Everyone pays for all sorts of things they don't like.
Pacifists pay for bullets and bombs. People who have zero interest in every leaving the city pay for National Parks. Those without children pay for public schools and universities. Aviophobiacs who will never set foot on an airplane pay for airports. Atheists pay for the roads in front of tax-exempt churches.
It's not even remotely reasonable to think that anyone gets to 'opt out' of supporting this or that with their taxes just because they don't like it.
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. No matter how many times you tell them, no matter how many women are interviewed that pay cash for their terminations... 
