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The solution is simple. Cops should stop enforcing abusive and unconstitutional gun laws that persecute peaceful gun owners and guarantee that thugs, the unhinged and thugs with badges have guns. If the good guys were armed then they would have a means to defend themselves in attempted mass shooting incidents. Nearly all mass shootings have occurred in gun free zones, military bases, cities or states.
Second, end the police state. Instead of cops harassing, abusing, assaulting, murdering, raping and stalking people who don't wear a seat belt, sell big sodas, exercise free speech, have whatever pills or plants they have, or check the wrong box on a government form, cops should be standing guard against real crime (rape, murder, assault, vandalism, criminal trespassing, theft). Instead of breaking down doors because someone has a pill or plant, they should be on every street corner deterring real crime and able to respond to them quicker in a calm deescalating manner.
Someone sent me a rep saying that my statement about convicted felons being able to legally access guns was false. It's not false. There are many ways for a convicted felon to legally obtain guns depending on the state in which they reside.
If you think any of these people should have the right to a gun, YOU probably shouldn't own a gun.
Private sellers are the biggest problem! A few states require the seller to go to a dealer and run a check, but most don't. If I wanted to, I could go on Craigslist right now, type in "gun" and have one by the end of the day, no questions asked. There are also some states, like Texas, that don't require even dealers to do a background check. All you need is a state ID and some money.
From its inception in 1993 until it was abolished in 2012, Canada's long gun registry did not help to solve a single crime. It did however, waste $2 billion in government funds that could have been used to pay for any number or methods to effectively reduce crime - like hiring more police officers, for example.
The long gun registry was introduced in 1995. Your take that it does't solve crimes is a limited view on why a registry was wanted, and how it was used.
This article gives another viewpoint, from a law enforcement viewpoint.
Gun control laws, as far as Canada goes, and I'm assuming other countries, are national. No patchwork of different laws when a state with stricter gun laws is at the mercy of a state next door with lax ones. No one checks you as you leave Texas for California for example. ( they do a produce check at the California border )
The notion that the second amendment is something sacred that can't be touched. Reality is that it has been, gun control laws wouldn't exist if it were. If people didn't keep reinterpreting and adjusting what " arms " actually are, you would only be allowed to carry muskets in a militia.
Criminals get guns. True, but it's more difficult for them in other countries. Pointing to the horrible events in Paris, doesn't mean gun control laws don't work. No truly free society can prevent things like this from happening. The difference is that in these other countries, the amount of gun violence is much less, gun deaths much less and accidental shootings much less.
A criminal robbing someone in Canada, UK etc, is most likely not going to have a gun, or expect the person robbed of having one.
They are not going to find when robbing a home, a handgun in the home in which to steal.
Simple math says the less guns there are, the less gun deaths. The numbers prove this.
Is it too late for the US?
Even the biggest turn around in gun laws in the US it is too late. At least for the next couple of generations. It will take years before this problem can be solved.
Let's assumed all firearms are banned, that the entire country is a gun free zone. There are an estimated 270 million firearms in circulation right now. How do the gun control advocates propose to take the guns away from criminals or other bad people who would not be inclined to turn them in voluntarily?
If I wanted to, I could go on Craigslist right now, type in "gun" and have one by the end of the day, no questions asked.
I don't know your specific area but looking over the Phoenix listings I've found one vintage Daisy BB gun, a few airsoft guns and some paintball guns in the first 100 listings.
The no gun policy is Craiglist's and that is policed by an automatic filtering system and other people using the site. They are under no legal obligation to do that. This is not something you can stop, CL a few years back stopped allowing prostitutes from posting. Another site popped up to fill that niche. If you were to make it illegal a site will simply move to overseas server further outside of the reach of US law enforcement. That's just reality.
Even the biggest turn around in gun laws in the US it is too late. At least for the next couple of generations. It will take years before this problem can be solved.
And if the Liberals do manage to "fix" all of their perceived problems Los Angeles will look like downtown Kabul.
I live in CA and own numerous guns, shoot regularly and Im not a criminal. I think it is absolutely outrageous that i cannot legally carry a pistol to protect myself mostly due to the County i live in. They need to nationally recognize the concealed carry laws to allow any non criminal with the proper training to carry a weapon of their choice.
Didn't San Bernadino already allow CCW?? But also, how many CCW heroes would've been able to stop two fanatics with AK-47s? (or similar type weapons) It took quite a few fully trained LEO to do it, who knows how many CCW Jason Bourne wannabees it would've taken. Maybe the real issue should be how the couple was able to get their assault rifles as easily as they did.
Didn't San Bernadino already allow CCW?? But also, how many CCW heroes would've been able to stop two fanatics with AK-47s? (or similar type weapons) It took quite a few fully trained LEO to do it, who knows how many CCW Jason Bourne wannabees it would've taken. Maybe the real issue should be how the couple was able to get their assault rifles as easily as they did.
I would guess that a fair number of ccw holders could have possible served this country in some capacity and could arguably be better trained than LEOs. But maybe you're right and most are just Jason Bourne wannabees
If A few people were armed and aware, the DEFENSELESS people gunned down would have at least had a chance.
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. That is probably by design.
