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Old 05-08-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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When a crime is committed in the US, there's much ado or speculation about the race of the individual. There's often coded language about race, religion, mental health, the weapon used, the tangled relationships or the wealth involved.

They're thugs.
They're muslim.
He's a lone wolf (e.g. crazy).
He's an irresponsible gun owner.
He got rid of her for his mistress.
He collected the life insurance.

However, the media and the population rarely (if ever?) dissect why violent crime is so decidedly, overwhelmingly male. There's often discussion over what to do about those thugs, those immigrants, those religious extremists or those guns. What gets lost, is that men, regardless of race, color, religion, creed, weapon of choice or financial standing are the principal proponents of violence.

Men are half of the population yet are charged with 73% of offenses against family and children, 77% of aggravated assault, 89% of murder and 99% of forcible rape according to 2012 FBI statistics.

Are men raised differently than women, expected (even encouraged) to be more physical?
Are hormones a driving factor?
What is it about men that prevents them from controlling violent impulses?
Is men perpetuating violence ignored because it's simply accepted as nothing exceptional?

A 20F degree day during a Wisconsin winter is nothing of note. A 68 degree day is newsworthy. Is a violent man (murderer, wife beater, rapist, child abuser) just another 20 degree day?
Violence in lesbian relationships. Violence among women in the military. Violence in sorority houses. Hmmm.....need I go on. It's a human thing.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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While all the things you guys say is true, lets not be PC here. Their is a reason why GTA characters have been male and most shooting video game characters are male. Their is also a reason why video games involving bloods and crips or urban Gangnam warfare have mostly black or Hispanic casts. It is trying to reflect reality.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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It's due to testosterone and patriarchy. The sooner women take over the sooner things like white and blue collar crime ends.
Don't hold your breath.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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Don't hold your breath.
I agree. Whoever thinks that a ton of women being in charge would drop violence dramatically is dreaming.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:32 PM
 
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With all of the discussions of gun violence, gangs/minority crimes, terrorists, cults, etc., most people seem to ignore the common link: the vast majority of these crimes are committed by boys in their teens and early 20's. There must be some link between testosterone and the developing male brain/emotional development. Regardless of race or ethnicity, (and yes, poor people who are more likely to be minorities are more likely to commit crimes or at least get prosecuted for them), males who are entering that turbulent young adulthood phase are more likely to be violent whether it's joining a gang, shooting up a school, joining a terrorist group, getting into a bar fight, raping a woman or drinking and driving.

The topic of mental health gets tossed around now and again, but no one does anything about it, or does research to examine the causes or possible treatments. There are so many issues plaguing our society that no one actually tries to solve; they are just talking points for politics or used to divide and conquer and foster civil unrest.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:35 PM
 
Location: UNMC Area
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With all of the discussions of gun violence, gangs/minority crimes, terrorists, cults, etc., most people seem to ignore the common link: the vast majority of these crimes are committed by boys in their teens and early 20's.
...who are being "raised" by single mothers.
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Old 05-08-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: coastlines
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Violence is a power thing.

Doesn't matter if it's male or female.

External or internal, direct or indirect.

It's about power and vulnerability and rage and fear.

I don't know if it will ever be eradicated.

Sometimes I think we are better off than in the middle ages, but there remain pockets of hostility and terror.

Perhaps as long as "survival of the fittest" remains our motto--instead of a basic care for all--violence will appear to be a "way" for those frustrated to "have their say" because they've not yet learned (or were taught) another way to be in the world equally with others.

Single mothers cannot take the burden off those whose abuse of power permeates almost every aspect of this society.

"Physician heal thyself" needs to translate into "Gender heal thy progeny."

It is the weakest of men and women who do not, but instead indulge themselves at the expense of others.

I once saw a quote: It is not a fact to be human, but a task. (Salem Orthodox Church)

The holy grail of the almighty dollar weighs mightier than that of our fellow souls (including animals).

Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord.

And she's pretty pissed these days.

So--like Rome and throughout history--it will all come crashing down in order to be rebalanced again.

And life goes on....
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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Interesting topic.

Based on two studies of men and women in prison, women are more violent, or as violent, as men. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/06...SIN=0691119376

Women are significantly less violent than men in the outside world and less lethal when they are violent. This holds in all time and places for which relevant data exist. And yet in prison this universal fact is overturned: women become at least as violent and often more prone to violence than men are. Although women in prison rarely commit homicide, a large study of Texas prisons by Tischler and Marquart showed that there was no difference between women and men in violent episodes.

Another study, based on comprehensive statistics for England and Wales, shows that the gender pattern is even reversed: women assault each other twice as much as men do, and they fight one and half times as much as men do…


Perhaps women have the tenancy to be just as violent as men. I don't think women are more virtuous than men, just physically smaller and usually less lethal.
Testosterone. It's a biological thing.

How can women be more violent in prison, according to the study, when it plainly states that they rarely commit homicide? They are talking about assaults, then. I think we're talking about murder in this thread, mainly.

Interesting, though. I wonder if it has to do with more of the men being aggressive, so less fighting because the bullies are more apt to get resistance, whereas there are more passive women in prison, so easier to bully them? Just guessing. Don't see how prison can make someone more violent, besides crowded conditions and less privacy, but that applies to the men, too.
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Old 05-09-2017, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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I guess you didn't see this year's film, "Hidden Figures."

Astronauts flew the "plane', but they didn't do the more important calculations to get them up into space.
First off, that movie was BS. Do the research.

Second, even if it was historically accurate (it's not), it's what is known as an outlier or anecdotal evidence. While women on average are just as intelligent as men, they lack the creativity of the male brain on average. This is why almost every major discovery in history was because of some dude.
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Old 05-09-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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"Dudes" only got to do all that work because women in large numbers had been relegated to tending the home fires that had allowed them to grow up to begin with. Today, we know that there are none of these once-imagined innate differences in capacities or tendencies. Except perhaps that men do tend to sit around idly and think about sex more often than women do. Penis-think has actually become one of our larger problems in the modern world.
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