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Old 05-08-2017, 10:18 AM
 
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Or all the females so we don't have to listen to their constant male bashing.
At that point we may as well become eunuchs.
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Been a farmer all my working years.


You castrate the male cattle (bulls) and their aggression disappears.
The only select few who are not castrated are kept for breeding purposes.


I doubt this would be accepted by humans,though


On most dairy farms no bulls are kept.
When breeding is desired the female is inseminated artificially from semen from a male housed and penned many miles away.


I doubt this would be accepted by humans, either
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: San Gabriel Valley
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Are men raised differently than women, expected (even encouraged) to be more physical?
Are hormones a driving factor?
What is it about men that prevents them from controlling violent impulses?
Is men perpetuating violence ignored because it's simply accepted as nothing exceptional?
In much of the animal kingdom, it is the smaller female that is the more aggressive and deadly (i.e. lions, for example)

In our species, some women have done very brutal and horrifying things. Not to mention, many males are idle and docile.

So, this theory sounds a little too pat and simplistic to me. There is a lot more to violence than just gender.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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This is misogynistic.

We need to be fair and make women equally violent. Will it work if we inject 20% of women with testosterone?
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Interesting topic.

Based on two studies of men and women in prison, women are more violent, or as violent, as men. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/06...SIN=0691119376

Women are significantly less violent than men in the outside world and less lethal when they are violent. This holds in all time and places for which relevant data exist. And yet in prison this universal fact is overturned: women become at least as violent and often more prone to violence than men are. Although women in prison rarely commit homicide, a large study of Texas prisons by Tischler and Marquart showed that there was no difference between women and men in violent episodes.

Another study, based on comprehensive statistics for England and Wales, shows that the gender pattern is even reversed: women assault each other twice as much as men do, and they fight one and half times as much as men do…


Perhaps women have the tenancy to be just as violent as men. I don't think women are more virtuous than men, just physically smaller and usually less lethal.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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Men are most violent in very early adulthood (age 17-25). 17-year-olds make great soldiers -- very aggressive and little fear of death. Aggressive behavior tends to decline in the 30s and beyond.

Traditionally, men wed a woman in their early 20s and raise a family. This seems to have a calming influence on male aggressive behavior, which after all is rooted in the instinct to establish mating dominance.

Problem is, today men in the West are not settling down and raising families. They have sex with birth control, but there's no children, no stable family to anchor them.

Also, no religion to preach morality at people week after week, no peer pressure to behave, general breakdown in shared moral beliefs.

Probably the best way back to a stable and violence free society is to return to the traditional family. But fully half the country no longer believes in that, and in fact they don't even believe in the two biological genders. We're kind of screwed, in other words.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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In general, you are correct. Most violent acts are committed by males. However, there are plenty of instances of Muslim female homicide bombers, Muslim female knife murderers, Muslim female shooters.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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What do you mean by this? What burden would that be that causes men to be overwhelmingly violent based upon crime statistics?
I just meant the entire modern male/female system. Meaning, men are taught from a young age to be "brave, sacrificing, a fighter," etc. Men are purposely encouraged to go out there and get it. Women on the other hand are taught to be more careful. To Women don't have to sacrifice, and can be the damsel and distress. Women don't have to be brave, but can expect men to give them money, help them out, etc. If a woman does something, she can just cry and get the sympathy of everyone. If a man cries, people laugh at him. Men have been punished and even when things go wrong for them, nobody helps. There's a reason why most homeless people are men. It just creates a burden on men that makes them more likely to be violent.

Not only that, but you could argue that women encourage violence in men, by choosing to associate with the "bad boy" and by glorifying that in the movies we watch and TV shows we see. The media and many women seek out drama and want to see men fight out, even if they are smart enough to not participate.

When you look at dogs, you can see how you can make and breed dogs to be the most calm and domesticated creatures that they are, even though they're very powerful animals that could be violent. In a sense, as a society we have trained men to be more violent and I would say that females have played a role in this as well. How often do you hear women say "you have to fight for me," or "yeah, hit them hard," when they're watching a boxing match. Many women celebrate with the fighting man and also encourage it as an ideal. Our society has created men into what they are.

I think the dog analogy and the domestication of animals provides a good way of explaining how you can make "violent creatures" into tame and docile animals.

Now imagine if women got together and "tamed" men and made them domesticated? Woman's best friend. It seems like most women are bored with the "nice guy," though.

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Old 05-08-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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I'd assume that violence is often due to testosterone.....IIRC, men with higher T levels tend to be even more violent than average men. Testosterone promotes aggressive behavior. Women have much less, so they tend to be far less aggressive.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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When a crime is committed in the US, there's much ado or speculation about the race of the individual.
There's a reason for that:

If you could stop the homicides committed by blacks and other minorities especially in low-income neighborhoods, then the entire U.S. would become as safe as Maine and Vermont. There would cease to be any unsafe areas in this country.

So, it's kind of hard to ignore.
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