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Old 10-17-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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yes .. all my life.
Honestly - it sounds like you would be much happier somewhere else - for what you are suggesting will a) never happen in the US or b) will result in a true civil war that will totally destroy the nation.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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Honestly - it sounds like you would be much happier somewhere else - for what you are suggesting will a) never happen in the US or b) will result in a true civil war that will totally destroy the nation.
America is on the downfall.. a 700 billion dollar bailout so the corprate idiots can go on a million dollar retreat... fourth and fith generation welfare recipients getting paid out of my pockets to sit around and do nothing. can u recommend something else? Send me in a direction to look.Is there a better plan?
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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can u recommend something else? Send me in a direction to look.Is there a better plan?
Go to Norway - or Sweden.

You will get your housing from the goverment - you healthcare from the Government - a guaranteed amount of paid vacation from the government etc

Of course, your income taxes will only be, oh, around 70%
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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Go to Norway - or Sweden.

You will get your housing from the goverment - you healthcare from the Government - a guaranteed amount of paid vacation from the government etc

Of course, your income taxes will only be, oh, around 70%
I saw the healthcare plan they get and it is worth it. i think it was also profiled on sicko.. I love my country but things here need an overhaul and fast.. shoot castro's people have better healthcare.
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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I saw the healthcare plan they get and it is worth it. i think it was also profiled on sicko.. I love my country but things here need an overhaul and fast.. shoot castro's people have better healthcare.
how can you love this country when it founded on, and fundamentally works different than you are advocating? You sir have benefited from our capitalist society. You really only know of what you read about Marxism. It looks great in theory, but EVERY single country that has tried any form of communism has failed, or dropped into poverty. NOT one has succeeded. European countries, while more socialistic than the U.S. are a hybrid of the two systems, they have free and open markets but with high regulation. They are suffering for there socialistic parts as well. Most of the countries that offer "free" health care are going broke, England was sinking so badly that they have freed up some of its health care to the market, and now are doing much better, yet still suffering. In our own country, the socialistic programs that were put in place are falling apart at the seams. Medicare is going broke, Social Security is going broke. Social Security Disability pay is going broke. Many state retirement programs are going broke. America will NOT let its self get to the point of Government controlling everything, We are the boss, not our government.
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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shoot castro's people have better healthcare.
No, they do not
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Old 10-17-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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No, they do not
Castro and his government officials have very good health care, unfortunately, the people of Cuba wallow in the lowest form of health care you can get anywhere.

Greatday, the guy obviously believes anything he hears in a Michal moore film.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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attacking brazil, saudia arabia, iran, canada, or just about anywhere else in the world for oil would have been better.
That's a misconception. If you had bothered to study neo-conservative thought on the issue from the mid -1970s through the present, US concerns lie with having access to oil, ensuring it is distributed through market principles and that it is sold in US Dollars.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Castro and his government officials have very good health care, unfortunately, the people of Cuba wallow in the lowest form of health care you can get anywhere.

Greatday, the guy obviously believes anything he hears in a Michal moore film.
The Cubans have an health care system, standard of living, and quality of life superior to that of any of the US supported puppet governments in the region.

Cuba is 50th on the Human Development Index while US puppet governments of Nicaragua, Honduras and Guatemala are in the 110s.

Even Vietnam has managed to surpass Nicaragua, Honduras and Guatemala in standard of living and quality of life in just 30 years in spite of brutal US economic sanctions and embargoes.
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Aiken S.C
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the 2 tiered system is interesting
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