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Old 11-03-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC/ West Palm Beach, FL
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Seriously, I do not think we really need to worry about communism in this country regardless of what the fear mongers keep stating in the media.

A modern form of fascism on the other hand, I am definitely more concerned of. In fact, we are seeing a gradual shift towards that direction and many people do not even realize it. One just has to look at the characteristics of a fascism government similiar to Germany with Hitler and the direction our policies.

Fascism is basically a totalitarian nationalist ideology that has the following characteristics:
* NATIONALISM (PATRIOTISM; Look at our banking system it is going in that direction)
* MILITARISM ( It is usually done with FEAR on an enemy. )Enemy could also be the american people if it threatens change.

* CORPORATISM (LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PASSED)Those are really the folks behind self-serving policies being passed.

If this country changes in another direction it would probably be something like a Democratic Socialist form of government or a modern day Fascism. It seems we are moving towards fascism faster than Democratic Socialist.
Communist, no way. With the Corporate influence in this country NO WAY, that is why FASCISM is very realistic.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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Scary, isn't it? That's why folks need to be so concerned with, not the president, but the CONGRESS!! We need strong, non-career folks looking out for us. Folks who will put the brakes on anything not expressed in our Constitution. So far, that''s not happening.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:41 PM
 
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Scary, isn't it? That's why folks need to be so concerned with, not the president, but the CONGRESS!! We need strong, non-career folks looking out for us. Folks who will put the brakes on anything not expressed in our Constitution.
Actually, that's not Congress' job -- that's the courts' job, among other things.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Seriously, I do not think we really need to worry about communism in this country regardless of what the fear mongers keep stating in the media.

A modern form of fascism on the other hand, I am definitely more concerned of. In fact, we are seeing a gradual shift towards that direction and many people do not even realize it. One just has to look at the characteristics of a fascism government similiar to Germany with Hitler and the direction our policies.

Fascism is basically a totalitarian nationalist ideology that has the following characteristics:
* NATIONALISM (PATRIOTISM; Look at our banking system it is going in that direction)
* MILITARISM ( It is usually done with FEAR on an enemy. )Enemy could also be the american people if it threatens change.

* CORPORATISM (LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PASSED)Those are really the folks behind self-serving policies being passed.

If this country changes in another direction it would probably be something like a Democratic Socialist form of government or a modern day Fascism. It seems we are moving towards fascism faster than Democratic Socialist.
Communist, no way. With the Corporate influence in this country NO WAY, that is why FASCISM is very realistic.

Your concerns are right on the money. But you missed the Patriot Act
Suspension of Habeous Corpus
confiscation of guns in New Orleans.
and all the other rights that have been removed.
Do we mention the the coup d'etat in 2000 with the voter fraud in Florida?

Facism is real and we are closer than most realize. We need to restore the Constitution but the primary parties won't do it hence why its Nader for me.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:18 PM
 
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:16 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally posted by Jeff Jarrett

Ah Yes, the simplistic reaction that if you criticize America you can only be a communist.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Dailymotion - Yuri Bezmenov, a video from onmyway02. bezmenov, KGB, yuri, soviet, marxism

Yuri Bezmenov, KGB defector to the West, in a 1985 interview.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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Fascism is a very real concern, look at the promises made by the party that want to gain control of our country.

Government control of industry & the economy.
Limitations on free speech.
Civilian "police force."
Isolationism.
Excessive voter fraud.

The fascist/socialist policies of the American Left are a very real and very frightening threat to the freedoms that we have.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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No, Communism didn't kill those people, DICTATORS did. Stalin, Mao and the rest were not Communists at all, but dictators who used the word "Communism" to gain support of the people who they were going to oppress. In Scandanavia they have a closer approximation to Communism than Stalinist Russia and it's a near-perfect society up there. But that "Red Fear" BS is even more pathetic now because the whole "Red Scare" ended 2 decades ago...
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Fascism is a very real concern, look at the promises made by the party that want to gain control of our country.

Government control of industry & the economy.
Limitations on free speech.
Civilian "police force."
Isolationism.
Excessive voter fraud.

The fascist/socialist policies of the American Left are a very real and very frightening threat to the freedoms that we have.
You mean the American RIGHT, right? Because all of those have been dome by the GOP and this Fascist government of the past 8 years. Election in 2000, clearly voter fraud. PATRIOT ACT limits free speech, the bailout (and the war in Iraq) were for government control of industry and the economy and we're isolated (refusing to talk to anyone who isn't our friend IS isolationism) more than before. [MOD CUT]

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