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Old 02-11-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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Some homosexuals claim they were born gay. But I know a gay person that recently became straight. This makes me wonder if people are really born gay. Not trying to offend any homosexuals.

 
Old 02-11-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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Some homosexuals claim they were born gay. But I know a gay person that recently became straight. This makes me wonder if people are really born gay. Not trying to offend any homosexuals.
What makes you think that this gay person you know recently became straight?

My pea-brained perspective is that I never made any choice to be attracted to women. It just is. The round peg goes in the round hole, if you will...

I don't really think that I could choose to be gay, do you? Whatever it is that directs me to women and averts me from men has always been there; never was there a moment when I decided "I am going to pursue women". It just is.

The prospect of sexual contact with another male is so alien, so foreign and so un-natural; how could anyone who is gay not be born so?
 
Old 02-11-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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What makes you think that this gay person you know recently became straight?

My pea-brained perspective is that I never made any choice to be attracted to women. It just is. The round peg goes in the round hole, if you will...

I don't really think that I could choose to be gay, do you? Whatever it is that directs me to women and averts me from men has always been there; never was there a moment when I decided "I am going to pursue women". It just is.

The prospect of sexual contact with another male is so alien, so foreign and so un-natural; how could anyone who is gay not be born so?
He got a girlfriend so that's why I think he went straight.
 
Old 02-11-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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The question "Are people born gay" is truly loaded and I for one am convinced that we will NEVER know.

One place people often turn to to answer this question is childhood expression- ignoring the fact that children are prepubescent and thus not at all sexual in their physical play.

One issue that people are usually nervous to approach (understandably) is that children sometimes "explore" and "play" physically amongst themselves. For them it's really just beginning to learn about human form. Obviously, adults should not encourage this sort of exploration among children, but hey it happens. Ignoring that fact is silly.

And quite often among the young ones, this sort of exploration does take place among same sexes.

I am under the firm belief that there is no study of any sort that will be able to determine whether a person is born gay. That said, I'm sure there are some people that are born with the inclination to be gay. And the reasons why may be so beyond our current understanding that we still wrangle with the basic question of - is it possible to be born gay?
 
Old 02-11-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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He got a girlfriend so that's why I think he went straight.
So the definition of "straight" is "having a girlfriend"?

For that matter, what does "having a girlfriend" mean to you?
 
Old 02-11-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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So the definition of "straight" is "having a girlfriend"?

For that matter, what does "having a girlfriend" mean to you?
He's had a boyfriend before and admitted to being gay so I know he was gay at one point. But the fact that he has a girlfriend leads me to believe he is attracted to females now. And that's what straight is, being attracted to females.
 
Old 02-11-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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Your friend is probably bisexual.

I definitely didn't choose to be heterosexual, I'm just lucky. It would suck to be gay, considering how society treats them. I'm pretty sure that most people who claim sexual orientation is a choice are either bisexuals or closeted homosexuals.

For those who are heterosexually oriented, it's pretty clear that we can't choose to be gay any more than we can choose to be a bird or a cat. I mean, I can flap my arms or meow, but when it comes to pooping in a sandbox or eating worms, the feeling's just not there, ya know?
 
Old 02-11-2010, 10:30 PM
 
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In my opinion there simply has to be a "gay gene." Having grown up in gay-friendly cities like Los Angeles and Santa Cruz and now Austin, and having an extensive music background, I've known many gay men and women, and everyone of them I've ever broached the subject with admitted they knew they were different from a very young age. Also, look at some of the typical mannerisms and affects of many--not all!--gay men: the slightly lispy, effeminate speech patterns; the mincing walk, the proclivity for artistic or creative--"right brain"--talents. Those traits all hint at a pre-genetic disposition; one doesn't just "choose" to exude them.
Gay women: the same thing. Why are most pure lesbians so much more masculine looking than their straight counterparts? What of their dominance in female sports? What about that prominent jawline? How can all that not be genetic?
As for your friend: you were fuzzy on the details of his alleged conversion, but I'm guessing he was simply bi-sexual all along.
 
Old 02-11-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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He's had a boyfriend before and admitted to being gay so I know he was gay at one point. But the fact that he has a girlfriend leads me to believe he is attracted to females now. And that's what straight is, being attracted to females.
Being straight definitely does not include having a boyfriend in the past. Your friend is gay, only he is now a gay man who has a girlfriend.
 
Old 02-11-2010, 11:32 PM
 
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Born Gay? Convince me! Born Straight? Convince me!:

Your first truly exciting, satisfying sexual experience will decide that. And, for some, that experience might not happen until you're in your 60's.

I went through a ghastly, lengthy ordeal coming out of the closet, and making my declarations to everyone: I'm Gay!

Then, along the way, some strange inexplicable things have occurred.

They always occur when walking through a red-light district, whether it be Amsterdam/Tijuana/Bangkok, and then my sexual identity really takes a beating!

I oftentimes wonder if straight women go through the same test when walking through wide open red light districts. A little confused at the end of the night? I'll betcha!
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