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Only 'IF' you own the mineral rights under your land.
The vast majority of fracking is done underneath other people's land/homes, and there are no royalty fees.
Someone owns the mineral rights. If not the current landowner, then a previous landowner may have retained them, or they may be owned by the state or federal government.
To go from 2 earthquakes a year, to nearly 600 of magnitude 3 or greater per year, is a HUGE shift. Huge enough that the cause should be fairly obvious to most people.
Please explain how your implied cause of Oklahoma's very recent uptick in earthquakes "should be fairly obvious to most people" in light of the fact that hydaulic fracturing and disposal wells have been in use for at least 5 or 6 decades.
Please explain how your implied cause of Oklahoma's very recent uptick in earthquakes "should be fairly obvious to most people" in light of the fact that hydaulic fracturing and disposal wells have been in use for at least 5 or 6 decades.
Fracking was done on a smaller scale early on. Massive hydraulic fracturing as it's referred only began in the 70's. Moreover, your argument is illogical. Just because something has been done for a while doesn't mean it's good. It was standard practice for decades for factories to dump chemicals into rivers. It was still a bad thing to do.
Not at the rate we use it. No one would even be considering fracking, tar sands, etc., if the good oil is abundant.
As has always been the case technology has evolved making it feasible. The need for these products is not going away in the near term simply because there is nothing to replace it. The reason for that is simple, you can easily store and transport a tremendous amount of energy.
While oil shale is found in many places worldwide, by far the largest deposits in the world are found in the United States in the Green River Formation, which covers portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. Estimates of the oil resource in place within the Green River Formation range from 1.2 to 1.8 trillion barrels. Not all resources in place are recoverable; however, even a moderate estimate of 800 billion barrels of recoverable oil from oil shale in the Green River Formation is three times greater than the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. Present U.S. demand for petroleum products is about 20 million barrels per day. If oil shale could be used to meet a quarter of that demand, the estimated 800 billion barrels of recoverable oil from the Green River Formation would last for more than 400 years1.
That's not to say they will never be replaced, it's inevitable that new tech will evolve to replace it. Ultimately I think it will geothermal.
Fracking could be why a lot of lakes are drying up also.......
Lets say you have 10 bowls, fill the top one with water, set off and explosion in the bottom bowl and the other 9 bowls crack and the water goes where? Same as fracking when you set off and explosion under ground, the lower level breaks up and the rest just kinda crack and sag and the water goes where???
As has always been the case technology has evolved making it feasible. The need for these products is not going away in the near term simply because there is nothing to replace it. The reason for that is simple, you can easily store and transport a tremendous amount of energy.
And yes there is lot of it.
That's not to say they will never be replaced, it's inevitable that new tech will evolve to replace it. Ultimately I think it will geothermal.
How much of our country are we going to dig up, contaminate, and destroy the land, for low quality oil?
There is nothing in science taken as absolute that is not subject to change if we learn more about it. Engineering relies heavily on math and leaving enough wiggle room for unpredictable weaknesses or structural members or failures of whatever technology is being used, and such. When it comes to nature few rules really exist. It comes down to what the bulk of the evidence suggests and some statistical analysis suggests about the likely spread of the results. I've been doing some research lately on tree diseases. The final report will not say an absolute "trees in X sites will get this disease" it's going to be "trees in x sites are x percent more likely, with a min and max percentages of a and b at the 95% confidence level, than trees on y sites to get this disease, based on study of a sample size of z trees in this particular region."
The fact is if we get numbers like we're seeing with the earthquakes and the fracking related activities (be it disposal or whatever), the reasonable answer is to consider there to be a problem with something the fracking involves.
This is the same idea as looking at a bridge. It's been there for twenty years, and it may or not be sturdy. The components of the construction are looked at, and wear and past history considered, and they INFER the results as a percentage chance, based on how long the compenants will fail.
So they aren't saying if you drive over it now, you'll fall in the river for sure. But the likelyhood of the bridge failing CAN be measured. So its a dark night and you want to get home and the bridge is subject to ice damage. And its icy. And there's evidence of new damage. You want to drive over it or would you rather take an alternate route? At what point does the bridge get closed given its got damage and ice and its getting even colder? How much chance you want to take?
So if the disposal of the wastewater has contributed to earthquakes, do you just keep it up until the worse happens or do you apply caution? Remember, you have oil stored in large vats, and just how much can they take? Do all the people who live in the way have a right to help make that choice, or does money buy everything including the right to put them all in danger? Would you be the one who decides that the bridge should hold up another season since its not damaged THAT bad?
As one of those who lives in the zone, I think WE have as loud a voice.
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