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Old 07-19-2012, 07:17 AM
 
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Anyway, have a good night, and stop hatemongering. Leave that for the Christians.
What an absurd comment that is also completely off-topic.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:19 AM
 
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It's probably another big expensive government sponsored and paid "sustainable development" project a/k/a Agenda 21.
Agenda 21 - time to break out the tin foil hats
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Agenda 21 - time to break out the tin foil hats
I ran out of Tin Foil , they tried to start a Anti-Agenda 21 thing here in the Northeast in-till they realized that most of them lived in what Agenda 21 proposes old Suburban style living....it fell apart fast...and the backlash was huge. Being against Transit in the Northeast or Alt Transportation is a death sentence for a politician hench why many Republicans support Rail....maybe not the full project , but at least one phase.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Greenville
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OK folks we are getting off subject here. Let's rein it in. I hope to see our bus services improve to serve the most local areas they can cover. Then a light rail service would be great for visiting the other towns and cities outside of Greenville. I believe it will still be awhile before we get to see a light rail service. Either way, I look forward to not having to drive in the future. It will be nice having the option not to drive if I want too.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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I actually would like to see Greenlink take part in a county-wide transportation tax to start working towards getting as much of the county connected as possible and to expedite projects, not to mention that it would be paid for by people living outside of the county by likely 30/70. This would really help to speed up the process of adding the bus routes they've proposed in their master plan, and maybe add a couple more that would make access to transit a truely county wide option. It would also supply the needed money to get started on any rail transit they may want to do.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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It's probably another big expensive government sponsored and paid "sustainable development" project a/k/a Agenda 21.


Here is Greenville's comprehensive plan. You can see how they are going to try to increase the population densities in certain areas by looking at the "future land use map" on page 51. http://www.greenvillecounty.org/gcpc...nsive_plan.pdf In the orange area which looks to be outside city limits they are planning for 3 to 6 dwellings per acre.

Greenville is a member of ICLEI.org whose purpose is to see that Agenda 21 is implemented .

Here you can look up cities that are members; look up Agenda 21.

Some of it sounds nice but the problem is that it is GOVERNMENT doing all of this without our say and at our expense. Of course since Government is paying for it all, $$ is no object. They'll be willing to pay $50 of tax payers money for a $5 hammer and make some contractor rich off the project. It doesn't cost them anything. Also with these projects the contractors have "limited liability". They don't even have to do a good job.

But that is the least of our worries.... it gets worse once you understand the goals of Agenda 21.
You have to be sh*****g me Emily. Stop hijacking threads with Agenda 21 s***. What you say is non-sensical.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Greenville
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I'm just curious as to how they're going to have the bus go along rail instead of on a road. It's a good idea though to have BRT first and then upgrade to LRT, especially when you're using tracks and right of way that are already in place...that really helps to offset the costs.
The plan is to pave a path adjacent to the tracks which the bus could then ride on. It would travel on the path for the length of the RR ROW without having to stop for cars. Once it reaches the Pleasantburg area, it would have to get on Laurens and Washington. It would have a traffic signal preemption device so it would not have to stop at traffic signals.

The rails have to stay partly so they can be used in the future but also because if they take the tracks up, the land reverts to the adjacent property owners.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You have to be sh*****g me Emily. Stop hijacking threads with Agenda 21 s***. What you say is non-sensical.
We do need to be vigilant of our individual freedoms, but I agree some of her posts go overboard a bit.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The plan is to pave a path adjacent to the tracks which the bus could then ride on. It would travel on the path for the length of the RR ROW without having to stop for cars. Once it reaches the Pleasantburg area, it would have to get on Laurens and Washington. It would have a traffic signal preemption device so it would not have to stop at traffic signals.

The rails have to stay partly so they can be used in the future but also because if they take the tracks up, the land reverts to the adjacent property owners.
Very interesting - a few things I wasn't aware of. Thanks! This is the most likely scenario for "rapid transit" in our area until population is at least twice what it is now. It would be a vast improvement over what we have now. I still think an I-385 park & ride would be a step in the right direction.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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I actually would like to see Greenlink take part in a county-wide transportation tax to start working towards getting as much of the county connected as possible and to expedite projects, not to mention that it would be paid for by people living outside of the county by likely 30/70. This would really help to speed up the process of adding the bus routes they've proposed in their master plan, and maybe add a couple more that would make access to transit a truely county wide option. It would also supply the needed money to get started on any rail transit they may want to do.
Again, sombody wanting me to pay a tax to pay for something I do not want to use. If it is such a good idea let private enterprise do it.
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