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Old 06-28-2018, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica, CA
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Just talking on another group here about dementia and shared this link and I'm surprised that Benedryl is not on this list.

https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-he...ss.html#quest1
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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Just talking on another group here about dementia and shared this link and I'm surprised that Benedryl is not on this list.

https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-he...ss.html#quest1
Benadryl is an antihistamine, and antihistamines are on the list.

All the most commonly prescribed drugs seem to be on that list -- and lots of older people are on several of them!
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica, CA
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Yep, I can only imagine all those folks with dementia taking all the statins they do.

I took Sudafed for many years before I really got into all that I do and it's not listed. I believe it's an antihistime. https://healthyliving.azcentral.com/...-12206136.html
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Benadryl is specifically mentioned in the article.

Lots of the meds on the list were things my dad had to take, and he has early-onset Alzheimer's. Still, he would not have had much quality of life without his medications.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Yep, I can only imagine all those folks with dementia taking all the statins they do.

I took Sudafed for many years before I really got into all that I do and it's not listed. I believe it's an antihistime. https://healthyliving.azcentral.com/...-12206136.html
Sudafed is a decongestant. It is not an antihistamine, and doesn't have the anticolinergic properties that affect memory in people taking antihistamines.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica, CA
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Benadryl is specifically mentioned in the article.

Lots of the meds on the list were things my dad had to take, and he has early-onset Alzheimer's. Still, he would not have had much quality of life without his medications.
How do you really know this...there are many alternatives to all the meds. I'm a good example of one who takes a few alternates vs the drugs. I believe there are alternatives for Every drug out there.

My mom and dad took none of them and had good minds the day they died in their 90's. Just saying.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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Sudafed is a decongestant. It is not an antihistamine, and doesn't have the anticolinergic properties that affect memory in people taking antihistamines.
Years ago I took Sudafed and Drixoral (an antihistime and decongestion combo). I have not taken either one in about 23 yrs.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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How do you really know this...there are many alternatives to all the meds. I'm a good example of one who takes a few alternates vs the drugs. I believe there are alternatives for Every drug out there.

My mom and dad took none of them and had good minds the day they died in their 90's. Just saying.
My dad has diabetes, paranoid schizophrenia, and high blood pressure. He also had a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis, which i believe was incorrect, but he had something else wrong that caused heat intolerance, temporary vision loss and joint pain.

Unless you've had a family member who was a paranoid schizophrenic, it's difficult to describe how necessary the meds are, for the safety of the patient and of everyone he has to live with and everyone he comes into contact with. Without meds, he would lock himself in his bedroom, call the FBI and the CIA hundreds of times a day and ask why they were following him, call the cable company over and over to ask why they allowed space aliens to hack into his modem, and eventually he would become so terrified that he would take every pill in his bathroom, and present us with a list of the pills he ate. Then it was time to go get his stomach pumped, and he was coherent enough to freak out at the sight of uniforms and think the paramedics were those FBI guys coming to get him, and calling the cops to help would have been dangerous, so I had to wrangle him into the car and sit behind him holding him up in the seat while my mom drove to the ER. Then get beat up by him while trying to get him into the hospital gown and watch while they tied him down and pumped his stomach, get puked on several times, then have to tell the doctors that it wasn't just a temporary depression like my mom was saying, and they needed to admit him. Then he'd stay in the mental hospital for a month, calling me 500 times a day and demanding to be let out, until his meds started to work and he could come back home and try to have some semblance of a normal life.

So that's how I know he needed his meds for a chance at some sort of life. I don't mind using alternative meds for simple things but it wouldn't have worked for that.

The Alzheimer's has eaten the schizophrenia, so at least he's not still hearing the voices and feeling terrified all the time.
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Old 06-29-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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My dad has diabetes, paranoid schizophrenia, and high blood pressure. He also had a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis, which i believe was incorrect, but he had something else wrong that caused heat intolerance, temporary vision loss and joint pain.

Unless you've had a family member who was a paranoid schizophrenic, it's difficult to describe how necessary the meds are, for the safety of the patient and of everyone he has to live with and everyone he comes into contact with. Without meds, he would lock himself in his bedroom, call the FBI and the CIA hundreds of times a day and ask why they were following him, call the cable company over and over to ask why they allowed space aliens to hack into his modem, and eventually he would become so terrified that he would take every pill in his bathroom, and present us with a list of the pills he ate. Then it was time to go get his stomach pumped, and he was coherent enough to freak out at the sight of uniforms and think the paramedics were those FBI guys coming to get him, and calling the cops to help would have been dangerous, so I had to wrangle him into the car and sit behind him holding him up in the seat while my mom drove to the ER. Then get beat up by him while trying to get him into the hospital gown and watch while they tied him down and pumped his stomach, get puked on several times, then have to tell the doctors that it wasn't just a temporary depression like my mom was saying, and they needed to admit him. Then he'd stay in the mental hospital for a month, calling me 500 times a day and demanding to be let out, until his meds started to work and he could come back home and try to have some semblance of a normal life.

So that's how I know he needed his meds for a chance at some sort of life. I don't mind using alternative meds for simple things but it wouldn't have worked for that.

The Alzheimer's has eaten the schizophrenia, so at least he's not still hearing the voices and feeling terrified all the time.
Amen.

No need to explain. You do what you think is right for your own dad.

You're about to be blamed by the "ALL drugs are bad" people above...
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:41 PM
 
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So sorry Hedgehog Mom that your family including your dad had to go through that. No supplement on earth could have helped him.
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