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Old 02-13-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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$550K? That would be extreme fixer territory in my area. You probably need to replace the heating, plumbing, electrical, roof, windows, siding, drainage, insulation and perhaps shore up the foundation a bit before putting any money into something fancy like a patio.
lol
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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lol
Lest you think I'm kidding, neither house had much in the way of updated systems or finishes:

For $539K, has a 6" slope from one side of the house to the other:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741

For $669K, has noticeable sloping and water intrusion issues:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/32...17/home/289153

The latter one has a few updates that might be comparable to an "$11K patio" - new floors, etc but it needs everything else. There just aren't many good deals in this price range anymore. Everything needs a ton of work.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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Lest you think I'm kidding, neither house had much in the way of updated systems or finishes:

For $539K, has a 6" slope from one side of the house to the other:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741

For $669K, has noticeable sloping and water intrusion issues:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/32...17/home/289153

The latter one has a few updates that might be comparable to an "$11K patio" - new floors, etc but it needs everything else. There just aren't many good deals in this price range anymore. Everything needs a ton of work.
My house was essentially rebuilt 6 years ago by the previous owner before we bought it. All the items you mentioned are 6 years old or newer.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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My house was essentially rebuilt 6 years ago by the previous owner before we bought it. All the items you mentioned are 6 years old or newer.
Location matters when considering projects like this.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:59 AM
 
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Location matters when considering projects like this.
Thanks captain obvious! lol
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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Thanks captain obvious! lol
I don't see any indication that you knew this.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:46 AM
 
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I don't see any indication that you knew this.
That's why I said thanks....captain obvious.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Lest you think I'm kidding, neither house had much in the way of updated systems or finishes:

For $539K, has a 6" slope from one side of the house to the other:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/23...17/home/289741

For $669K, has noticeable sloping and water intrusion issues:
https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/32...17/home/289153

The latter one has a few updates that might be comparable to an "$11K patio" - new floors, etc but it needs everything else. There just aren't many good deals in this price range anymore. Everything needs a ton of work.
I'll apologize. I missed your first post in this topic about %. I read your second post and didn't think it contributed to the topic, but was more just a brag. However, after seeing your first post, I realize that wasn't the case. My bad.
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Old 02-14-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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I'll apologize. I missed your first post in this topic about %. I read your second post and didn't think it contributed to the topic, but was more just a brag. However, after seeing your first post, I realize that wasn't the case. My bad.

I'm just kind of puzzled about OP's decision making process on this. At least he got some useful feedback about where to put the patio from multiple posters.

Personally, I wouldn't spend $11K to add patio space since my house already has too much of it, so much that I've removed a bunch already. That obviously has no bearing on his decision.

Questions about what materials to use, raised deck vs at grade patio, etc... depend heavily on the local climate and individual layout of the yard. It's difficult to give useful feedback without knowing this stuff.
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I'm just kind of puzzled about OP's decision making process on this. At least he got some useful feedback about where to put the patio from multiple posters.

Personally, I wouldn't spend $11K to add patio space since my house already has too much of it, so much that I've removed a bunch already. That obviously has no bearing on his decision.

Questions about what materials to use, raised deck vs at grade patio, etc... depend heavily on the local climate and individual layout of the yard. It's difficult to give useful feedback without knowing this stuff.
And bragging about how overpriced your area is does not help the OP at all. And this is coming from someone who also lives in an overpriced area.

OP, as you know, it's all relative.

What we need is a diagram of your backyard and house. The photos help tremendously because they tell me two things: 1) That is not a 100-year-old tree, and 2) You could improve that area for much less than $11K.

I agree that to make an entertaining space truly valuable, it needs to be right out the back door. What is happening there, next to the house?
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