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There have always been nosy people with so much time on their hands that spy on everyone in the neighborhood. They just keep from complaining about how others in the neighborhood are living their lives.
What they need to do, is get a hobby, so they don't have time to spy on neighbors to see.
I know of one retired woman in St George Utah, who could not wander around very large senior citizen track of homes, fast enough to meet her goals. Her husband bought her a motor scooter, so she could do the entire tract of homes twice a day. Her goal was to find who in the neighborhood, had broken some rule so she could report them to the board.
I had a sister in law in Phoenix AZ area, living in a very expensive home with a HOA. Their home backed onto a Canal. Some one of these neighborhood spies had taken a boat and went along the canal that was the one boundary for the home tract looking for violations. Spotted a bird feeder under their patio cover that was slightly different than the allowed color for feeders, and they were told to remove it or paint it the approved colors. Not seen from any of the housing track, and illegal to use a boat in the irrigation canal, but someone like the OP who watches what neighbors do, took a small boat down the canal to find any problem they could report to get people in trouble.
I have personally noticed this with long time acquaintance now suffering from Dementia... these were neighbors I have know since childhood and widows now.
It gets exhausting... a car can't turn around or a person leave their home without them at the window... in some ways it is a private neighborhood watch... but I could not do it.
I was visiting one and she could tell me everything about everyone... plus each time the huge Brown Truck stops next door... UPS or that the neighbors had a truck with 4 men make a delivery and they were there a long time... hot tub.
Kind of sad but looking out the window is the highlight of their day...
Most cookie cutter newer construction I see (under say 3500 sq ft homes) will have small two car garages which don’t leave much room for storage...especially for a family of 4 or 5. If these neighborhoods weren’t so regulated someone might be better off forgoing the attached garage completely and just build a much larger detached garage behind the house...but then again these neighborhoods usually have 1/4 acre or less so there goes the backyard.
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Sounds like a plan! Can you suggest an area where I can get 20-30 acres of land, an old house with outbuildings, a very mild winter (compared to the northeast) for under 200K? My vision of CA is expensive but I'm sure there are reasonable places somewhere and I'm looking to move.... (no HOA)
The high desert, Victorville/Barstow area. half way between LA and Vegas. Nothing but desert farther than the eye can see or the car can drive. Land is cheap because there is so much of it.
Mild winter? I lived there 12 years and I think I saw snow maybe a couple of times, but it was gone in a few hours. Gets a little toasty in the summer, 100 degrees would be a cool day, but no humidity and never once saw a mosquito..
Here is an example, 19 acres for $240k, will take your car or camper for down payment.. Come on out, the weather is fine... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...783464660.html
Here is a 10 acre plot for $190K, get packing that suitcase, we look foreword to having you for a neighbor.... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...795993350.html
The high desert, Victorville/Barstow area. half way between LA and Vegas. Nothing but desert farther than the eye can see or the car can drive. Land is cheap because there is so much of it.
Mild winter? I lived there 12 years and I think I saw snow maybe a couple of times, but it was gone in a few hours. Gets a little toasty in the summer, 100 degrees would be a cool day, but no humidity and never once saw a mosquito..
Here is an example, 19 acres for $240k, will take your car or camper for down payment.. Come on out, the weather is fine... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...783464660.html
Here is a 10 acre plot for $190K, get packing that suitcase, we look foreword to having you for a neighbor.... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...795993350.html
But the poster said they want a house included at that price, not just some useless land. Note there no other houses, just lots of desert.
There have been lots of those type developments, people from out of the area buy some of the lots, but no one builds on them. A lot just let them go to the county for taxes. A lot of them just walk away losing all their investment.
The high desert, Victorville/Barstow area. half way between LA and Vegas. Nothing but desert farther than the eye can see or the car can drive. Land is cheap because there is so much of it.
Mild winter? I lived there 12 years and I think I saw snow maybe a couple of times, but it was gone in a few hours. Gets a little toasty in the summer, 100 degrees would be a cool day, but no humidity and never once saw a mosquito..
Here is an example, 19 acres for $240k, will take your car or camper for down payment.. Come on out, the weather is fine... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...783464660.html
Here is a 10 acre plot for $190K, get packing that suitcase, we look foreword to having you for a neighbor.... https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/...795993350.html
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Originally Posted by oldtrader
But the poster said they want a house included at that price, not just some useless land. Note there no other houses, just lots of desert.
There have been lots of those type developments, people from out of the area buy some of the lots, but no one builds on them. A lot just let them go to the county for taxes. A lot of them just walk away losing all their investment.
I love the sound of that winter! But oldtrader is right, I don't want to have to build. Ideally I'd love an old farm.
I did look up the area and found some with houses and land, but either they were crazy expensive (nearing a million or more) or they were run down trailers. Still a bit more expensive than the western Appalachia area
I love the sound of that winter! But oldtrader is right, I don't want to have to build. Ideally I'd love an old farm.
I did look up the area and found some with houses and land, but either they were crazy expensive (nearing a million or more) or they were run down trailers. Still a bit more expensive than the western Appalachia area
You are trying to look at the west, to find a place you can buy acreage, with a real home on the property, and at the same time wanting to pay Appalachian Prices. Not going to happen. Property out west is expensive and getting higher priced.
Cheaper land parcels, will usually require you keep a water truck, which is an old pickup with a 350 gallon plastic water tank on the back, and you have to haul the water to your property. Be rough terrain, and often with difficult access.
Some of these will give you an idea for prices and what you get. And Montana farm land is not near as expensive as some places.
And the cheaper 20 to 40 acre bare lots, may cost you $20,000 or more to bring electricity to you site and many other expenses to develop the lot.
The cheaper the lot, the more worthless the property is, just a big building lot.
For what you are looking for, the Appalachia area is the place for you to look, not the west.
I spent from 1972 until I retired as an investment real estate broker, and know a little about the real estate business, involved with property all over the west, in 1031 real estate exchanges.
After this latest snowstorm, I am looking even more forward to having a garage again. I'm hoping today was the last time I will have to dig my car out of multiple feet of snow.
For me, it is because the garages are getting smaller and smaller with each new construction. It takes some effort to park in there without bumping into sidewalls or something in the garage. I only do it when snow or rain is expected otherwise my car is happy in the driveway.
After this latest snowstorm, I am looking even more forward to having a garage again. I'm hoping today was the last time I will have to dig my car out of multiple feet of snow.
It depends how long your driveway is. Sometimes I'd rather park closer to the street, or even on the street, than mess with shoveling the entire driveway from apron to garage.
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(no HOA)
