Why do people think a full UT campus in Houston would negatively impact UH? (Rice: club, safe)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by WRM20

UH offers PhD's in Pharmaceutical Sciences.

When did that start?

That was something that limited their TMC campus for a long time.

[NigerianNightmare]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

You beat me to it. I was about to say. Texas Texas tech doesn’t have near twice UH’s endowment. Another deal that really helped UH prosper was ESPN’s AAC contract. Their recent deal actually isn’t far from ACC’s deal.

As long as you’re not ranking UH with the likes of Rice, A&M, UT Austin, Baylor College of Medicine and so forth I’m not knocking UH at all.

I was looking at old numbers and thought they were accurate saw, Tech at 1.3 billion and UH at around 700 million.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by bu2

When did that start?

That was something that limited their TMC campus for a long time.

UH has long had a College of Pharmacy and a College of Optometry. The College of Optometry is the only Optometry school in Texas.

You might want to acquaint yourself with the course catalog before making ignoramus statements!

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by Texas Ag 93

Just a point of clarification, A&M's medical school has been around since the 1970s, just a few years less than UT Houston. And your numbers above are only allopathic schools (which might have been your intent) and don't include Osteopathic schools, in which case, DFW has multiple public schools as well with not just Southwestern, but UNT (not that I think allopathic and osteopathic schools are equivalent, IMO, they are not).

But like you, I kind of wonder why the Houston metro needed a 4th school. With the physician shortage in this country, there is no question we could use more, but putting one elsewhere in the state might have made more sense. I'll also be interested in seeing how the UH med school's focus on primary care plays out. A noble aspiration for sure, but possibly one that was done to acknowledge the likelihood that they will not be able to compete on equal footing with BCM, UT, UTMB for quite some time. There's also the fact that they have no academic teaching facilities, but instead are aligned with a for profit, publicly traded corporate medical company like HCA. I'm curious to see how that aspect works out.

It's pretty common for states to focus certain studied in particular cities. Like Austin with tech. The stories healthcare has helped Houston's biotech boom with Rice's BRC, TMC3, Baylor Genetics and obviously A&M's new bioscience campus. As mentioned above, Dallas has IT studies above the rest. The UH medical school approval was probably just to give a growing University System the means to grow their fields of study.



Rice's Innovation District is following the lines of Stanford's Research Park. That land was granted to Rice for an expanded off campus years ago but didn't capitalize on it until recently. This will be new given that most of these levels of studies are currently done in Austin, but with Houston's biotech boom, a tech center like this was necessary.

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

The UH medical school approval was probably just to give a growing University System the means to grow their fields of study.

When the College of Medicine was announced, the plan was to fold the existing UH College of Pharmacy and Optometry and UH-Victoria BSN/RN program into the new college. The College of Nursing has been in UH proper for a couple of years. Soon Pharmacy, Optometry, and Nursing will be folded into the amalgamated college.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

UH has long had a College of Pharmacy and a College of Optometry. The College of Optometry is the only Optometry school in Texas.

You might want to acquaint yourself with the course catalog before making ignoramus statements!

You should learn to read before making such comments. You make yourself look rude AND stupid.

The question was when UH was allowed to issue Phd's in their Pharmacy program. They had been limited for many years to Master's degree to avoid infringing on TSU's program. The head of the Pharmacy school campaigned for them to get that ability. The other poster claimed that they can now issue Phd's and I asked him when that changed.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Here's proof that both Rice University's The Ion/Innovation District in Midtown and TMC3 were answers to the UT data science center cancelation. https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/...-for-tech.html

Now new question, are things better now as they're going? Or would the UT data science center have been better?

[KerrTown]

Originally Posted by bu2

You should learn to read before making such comments. You make yourself look rude AND stupid.

The question was when UH was allowed to issue Phd's in their Pharmacy program. They had been limited for many years to Master's degree to avoid infringing on TSU's program. The head of the Pharmacy school campaigned for them to get that ability. The other poster claimed that they can now issue Phd's and I asked him when that changed.

Here is the website where you can check the degree offerings:
https://uh.edu/pharmacy/prospective-students/

You should have checked the website first to update yourself, before making that assertion in that first post with the OP. I wouldn't spout dated knowledge without fact-checking first!

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by bu2

You should learn to read before making such comments. You make yourself look rude AND stupid.

The question was when UH was allowed to issue Phd's in their Pharmacy program. They had been limited for many years to Master's degree to avoid infringing on TSU's program. The head of the Pharmacy school campaigned for them to get that ability. The other poster claimed that they can now issue Phd's and I asked him when that changed.

No idea when UH started offering PhD's. I looked at the school website.

[VitaminB12]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Here's proof that both Rice University's The Ion/Innovation District in Midtown and TMC3 were answers to the UT data science center cancelation. https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/...-for-tech.html

Now new question, are things better now as they're going? Or would the UT data science center have been better?

Probably would be better if if we had both. It would be better if UT, UH, and the Houston could have worked it out which does mean more transparency from UT and less overreaction from UH.

I think Houston's "Plan B" is pretty impressive but it needs more buy in from the city and business community.