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I am so in agreement with you. Every time I go over to that board I get sick to my stomach. They are so corrupt, selfish and delusional it's breathtaking. When you're raised by criminal parents it's pretty much a given that the apple won't fall far from the tree.
This is the direction the US is thankfully going on !!!
This Dreamie BS will end soon.
He also said that he thinks it is great that people can get a path to citizenship if they serve in the military. He agrees with that part of the Dream Act. So, he really isn't against it.
I personally don't like any part of it and I don't understand why people think it is OK for a an illegal immigrant to be here as long as they "serve" in our military.
The military is different for everyone. I have family in the military and respect everyone who wears the uniform. However, I know that people join the military for different reasons. I personally know this to be true. There are people who join just so they can get education-assistance while in the military or after the military. There are people who join the military because they want a free trip around-the-world to do all the traveling that they always wanted to do. Then, there are even people who join the military because they want the thrill of using weapons. Many people join the military just to get something out of it for themselves and illegal immigrants definitely will be no exception. Of course, there are many who DO join to serve their country and out of concern for defending the nation. As the saying always goes: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Illegal immigrants definitely won't have that quote in mind.
So, to me, just because you join the military doesn't mean you have some allegiance to the United States and that is what people were trying to say that the illegal immigrants are showing if they join the military. No, many will do it just to do their quick 2 years (that's what they are asking for within the Dream Act), get out and then apply for amnesty. That's a pretty nice deal for them, if you ask me.
Now, if the current state of the military in the U.S. remains the same then I will give them credit for putting their life on the line because that is what many do when they are deployed to a place like Afghanistan.
So, I think there should be tighter requirements for the Dream Act. Illegal immigrants shouldn't be able to just serve some cushy 2-year military term and then get blessed with such a tremendous gift as U.S. citizenship. That's wrong and unfair to the legal immigrants. Now, if they were all becoming Navy Seals or some Army Ranger and doing some serious grunt work to take out foreign enemies in hostile environments, then, yeah, I'm thinking they have more reason to be eligible for a shot at citizenship. But, a lot of military jobs aren't really difficult, particularly when one gets to remain in the safety of a U.S. base.
He also said that he thinks it is great that people can get a path to citizenship if they serve in the military. He agrees with that part of the Dream Act. So, he really isn't against it.
I personally don't like any part of it and I don't understand why people think it is OK for a an illegal immigrant to be here as long as they "serve" in our military.
The military is different for everyone. I have family in the military and respect everyone who wears the uniform. However, I know that people join the military for different reasons. I personally know this to be true. There are people who join just so they can get education-assistance while in the military or after the military. There are people who join the military because they want a free trip around-the-world to do all the traveling that they always wanted to do. Then, there are even people who join the military because they want the thrill of using weapons. Many people join the military just to get something out of it for themselves and illegal immigrants definitely will be no exception. Of course, there are many who DO join to serve their country and out of concern for defending the nation. As the saying always goes: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Illegal immigrants definitely won't have that quote in mind.
So, to me, just because you join the military doesn't mean you have some allegiance to the United States and that is what people were trying to say that the illegal immigrants are showing if they join the military. No, many will do it just to do their quick 2 years (that's what they are asking for within the Dream Act), get out and then apply for amnesty. That's a pretty nice deal for them, if you ask me.
Now, if the current state of the military in the U.S. remains the same then I will give them credit for putting their life on the line because that is what many do when they are deployed to a place like Afghanistan.
So, I think there should be tighter requirements for the Dream Act. Illegal immigrants shouldn't be able to just serve some cushy 2-year military term and then get blessed with such a tremendous gift as U.S. citizenship. That's wrong and unfair to the legal immigrants. Now, if they were all becoming Navy Seals or some Army Ranger and doing some serious grunt work to take out foreign enemies in hostile environments, then, yeah, I'm thinking they have more reason to be eligible for a shot at citizenship. But, a lot of military jobs aren't really difficult, particularly when one gets to remain in the safety of a U.S. base.
He said "children of illegal immigrants", as in ones that have been here. It would not cover people that cross the border to enlist.
I think we know that, however the Dream Act is about legalizing adults already here wanting to go to college or to be able to enlist in our military. I consider anyone over 17 to be an adult, not a child.
Did you read your cite? There is much discussion about other ways of handling it and the down side of the risk being taken. Not bad actually.
Yes I read it. Did you? If you read various posts throughout that website it is wrought with a multitude of personal stories involving their criminal activity past and present. At the end of the day, they are illegal alien criminals who by their own admission are determined to lie, steal, cheat, marry or do whatever it takes to remain in this country. It doesn't get any more selfish, narcissistic and pathetic than that.
I think we know that, however the Dream Act is about legalizing adults already here wanting to go to college or to be able to enlist in our military. I consider anyone over 17 to be an adult, not a child.
As well as a large number of still young children who will take advantage of the program as they graduate high school.
There certainly would be an initial flurry. Then it would be a smaller number each year. I would guess it gets very small in about 15 years.
Yes I read it. Did you? If you read various posts throughout that website it is wrought with a multitude of personal stories involving their criminal activity past and present. At the end of the day, they are illegal alien criminals who by their own admission are determined to lie, steal, cheat, marry or do whatever it takes to remain in this country. It doesn't get any more selfish, narcissistic and pathetic than that.
And it was also filled with numerous people counciling much more acceptable paths.
Situations change. Not so long ago Sheriff Joe here in Arizona didn't care much about illegals; he does now. Maybe Mitt Romney had HIS wakeup call from the American people.
Seriously, I have seen years ago military soldiers who did not speak English and they were being processed through the Army confinement facility. That was not a good situation. So, basic training would include English As A Second Language? No, they don't belong in OUR country and they surely don't belong in OUR military. Do you really want our soldiers next to someone that is there simply because this is the way for them to become legal? What an insane idea! If the military is involved at all, it should OUR citizens protecting OUR border from further invasion.
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