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Old 03-14-2008, 05:56 PM
 
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Funny thing is, it comes out only in Latin American countries. It comes out in Puerto Rico, but not Jamaica . Oh and, it comes out in Texas too.
Well, the thing is that "el Chupacabras" is a puerto rican born US citizen that does not have passport and only travels within United States territory, ie. Texas, Puerto Rico, Wyoming, etc.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: California
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Well, the thing is that "el Chupacabras" is a puerto rican born US citizen that does not have passport and only travels within United States territory, ie. Texas, Puerto Rico, Wyoming, etc.
That makes no sense.

1. You can't travel to any country now with out a passport
2. What the heck are you talking about? This is El Chupacabra:

http://upsidedownhippo.com/archives/chupacabra-november1.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:12 PM
 
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That makes no sense.

1. You can't travel to any country now with out a passport
2. What the heck are you talking about? This is El Chupacabra:

http://upsidedownhippo.com/archives/chupacabra-november1.jpg (broken link)
I meant legally, btw nice picture.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:16 PM
 
Location: California
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I meant legally, btw nice picture.
Unfortunately, the closest they've come to finding a Chupacabra is a dog with mange.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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Unfortunately, the closest they've come to finding a Chupacabra is a dog with mange.
You telling me, this is not chupacabras, I'm heartbroken
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Old 03-16-2008, 06:29 PM
 
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How does demanding our immigration laws be enforced translate to fear, hate, extremism, lack of logic, less then intelligent solutions, facist or racist? Please enlighten us........We are dying to hear your spin on this one.
That's precisely the point....
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:05 PM
 
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And how's that working for them?

Growth? We are in a recession. The dollar continued it's free fall today. This "cheap labor" is harming the economy in the long run. We need higher wages. We need higher interest rates. We need to infuse some value back into the dollar, otherwise, oil will continue to climb, causing the price of goods to climb. We cant continue to debase our currency! If we ejected the illegals, the increased cost of services will be offset by the increased value of the dollar.

If we keep going the way we have been going, we will end up with a country of a few super rich CEOs and hundreds of millions of poor people getting slave wages, just like a third world country. This has been the trend, has it not. It wasn't too long ago when a janitor could support his family in his own house in nice blue collar neighborhood. I'm only 39 years old, and I can remember those days. Do you ever ponder the reasons why the standard of living has gone down so much? I haven't even gotten into the tax revenue that could be re-diverted back to the benefit of Americans. It could be used to help poor Americans buy health insurance, rebuild rusty bridges, etc.

You can call these people mean, redneck, racists all you want, but you would be wrong. This is a trick of the illegal alien sympathizers. Turn it into a race issue. In REALITY, it is an economic issue. Most people dont care what race an illegal alien is, they just want them gone. I believe you are really looking out for people and trying to be humane. I am too, but my allegiance and humanity is toward the American people first. I'll worry about citizens of other countries after all of our people are taken care of.

but what's the point?
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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but what's the point?
MD's point is simple:

Quit blaming everybody else for the problems caused by the presence of illegal immigrants.
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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An old adage is 'follow the money'....who is benefitting from this arrangement?
Businesses are. Big businesses such as packing houses to smaller outfits in the construction industry as well as agriculture benefit from paying less for illegal workers then they would pay for a legal immigrant or a US citizen. Period.
Why has it been allowed to continue? Money. Money saved from paying employees is money in the bank for corporations and shareholders and lets face it, lobbyists to go to DC and 'peruade' govt. officials to look the other way in their home state.
We also can't overlook the effect the word 'racist' has on our society. There is nothing worse to be called, and it certainly is a career killer. What happens when there have been ICE raids? The word racist gets thrown around and for good measure there will be human interest stories in the papers for weeks afterwards featuring families 'torn apart' by the raid.
So, I suggest following AZ and OK lead, fine businesses heavily and often for hiring illegals, fine heavily realtors/propety owners who knowingly sell/rent to illegals, and finally to take the abuse of the word 'racist' when called it.
Nobody is saying keep people from immigrating to the US. Nobody is saying only let in whites. What a lot of people are saying is let in legal immigrants that have skills that can help and add to our society.
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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An old adage is 'follow the money'....who is benefitting from this arrangement?
Businesses are. Big businesses such as packing houses to smaller outfits in the construction industry as well as agriculture benefit from paying less for illegal workers then they would pay for a legal immigrant or a US citizen. Period.
Why has it been allowed to continue? Money. Money saved from paying employees is money in the bank for corporations and shareholders and lets face it, lobbyists to go to DC and 'peruade' govt. officials to look the other way in their home state.
We also can't overlook the effect the word 'racist' has on our society. There is nothing worse to be called, and it certainly is a career killer. What happens when there have been ICE raids? The word racist gets thrown around and for good measure there will be human interest stories in the papers for weeks afterwards featuring families 'torn apart' by the raid.
So, I suggest following AZ and OK lead, fine businesses heavily and often for hiring illegals, fine heavily realtors/propety owners who knowingly sell/rent to illegals, and finally to take the abuse of the word 'racist' when called it.
Nobody is saying keep people from immigrating to the US. Nobody is saying only let in whites. What a lot of people are saying is let in legal immigrants that have skills that can help and add to our society.
Your statement is quite reasonable IMHO.
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