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I don't think you are being honest. If you find out that the pub you have been frequenting for the last 15 years is closing because they are deporting the illegal Irish owner, and you have the choice of substituting a person who has been on welfare for the past 10 years, you are telling me you wouldn't do it? I am not talking about what is legal or illegal here - I am saying that the value of a person's contributions to this society are not always a matter of strictly legal or illegal considerations.
Is being on welfare legal? Yes
Is being in the the United States without permission Legal? No
Maybe the illegal Irish guy has owned an Irish pub for decades, and provides a service to the community. Contrast him to a 'legal' American on welfare. Who would you rather deport - honestly?
For an illegal to own and operate a pub, he would need a liquere lisence. I do believe that would be tough to do without being a legal resident of the USA. So, that could only mean that said illegal must have stolen someones ssn........that would make him a thief, specifically dealing in identity theft. Not a crime I would compare with, say - jaywalking.
Maybe the illegal Irish guy has owned an Irish pub for decades, and provides a service to the community. Contrast him to a 'legal' American on welfare. Who would you rather deport - honestly?
This is a matter of law. There is no room for opinion or sentiment.
Maybe the illegal Irish guy has owned an Irish pub for decades, and provides a service to the community. Contrast him to a 'legal' American on welfare. Who would you rather deport - honestly?
It wouldn't matter if you wanted to deport the welfare recipient American, for one we're not like other countries that dump our unwanted populations into other countries.
Either we have laws or we do not, and if we have them then we need to enforce them. Why wouldn't your great illegal Irish guy have gone through the legal process? Does he believe that he's entitled to have citizenship here if he breaks the laws? Does he figure the legal immigrants are just a bunch of chumps for following the law but he's too smart for that?
Do you believe Americans would have a right to ignore the laws of Ireland and go there illegally and just follow the laws they feel like following?
It wouldn't matter if you wanted to deport the welfare recipient American, for one we're not like other countries that dump our unwanted populations into other countries.
Either we have laws or we do not, and if we have them then we need to enforce them. Why wouldn't your great illegal Irish guy have gone through the legal process? Does he believe that he's entitled to have citizenship here if he breaks the laws? Does he figure the legal immigrants are just a bunch of chumps for following the law but he's too smart for that?
Do you believe Americans would have a right to ignore the laws of Ireland and go there illegally and just follow the laws they feel like following?
Suppose you had a commune of 30 people, and found out that your most valuable member was illegal. There is also a member of the commune who does nothing all day, and sponges off of the commune. The 'law' says that a commune who knowlingly harbors an illegal, must give up someone in the commune, doesn't have to be the illegal. Who would go?
Suppose you had a commune of 30 people, and found out that your most valuable member was illegal. There is also a member of the commune who does nothing all day, and sponges off of the commune. The 'law' says that a commune who knowlingly harbors an illegal, must give up someone in the commune, doesn't have to be the illegal. Who would go?
And what if fairies flew over the commune dropping rainbows whenever the illegal stepped outside, but angry unicorns would rampage throughout the commune whenever Lazy Citizen Joe showed his face?
I mean, come on already! You can try to spin this so that the illegal is the best person on Earth and the US citizen is an escapee from hell, but the bottom line will always be the same.
Here is a more real life scenerio........Illegal X came into this country looking for work. Upon entering the country illegally, he optained a SSN under the name of Gorgeet. Should Gorgeet be worried about this, or should Gorgeet be happy that even though his/her credit may be forever ruined, he/she is helping an illegal immigrant out?
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