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Old 07-15-2008, 12:50 PM
 
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Apologies if this is a duplicate. I don't recall seeing this on here.

Our Say:*Immigration raid justified - but not a real solution - Opinion - (HometownAnnapolis.com) (http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/2008/07_06-15/OPN - broken link)

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Such heavily publicized raids may frighten some illegal immigrants into moving to other jurisdictions. But most will calculate - correctly - that the risk of being caught by one of these occasional spectaculars is low.

We're not shedding tears for illegals caught and deported. And we don't question that Mr. Leopold has had good ideas - such as promptly notifying ICE when immigrants wind up in the county jail. But this isn't a fight a county executive can win.

What's needed is a comprehensive national solution. It should include border control, punishment of employers who deliberately exploit the labor of illegal immigrants, and a path to legality for the millions of illegals who are already in this country and - let's face it - are not going to be hauled off in raids like the one last week.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Apologies if this is a duplicate. I don't recall seeing this on here.

Our Say:*Immigration raid justified - but not a real solution - Opinion - (HometownAnnapolis.com) (http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/2008/07_06-15/OPN - broken link)

Last three paragraphs for those who don't like to read the articles posted...

Such heavily publicized raids may frighten some illegal immigrants into moving to other jurisdictions. But most will calculate - correctly - that the risk of being caught by one of these occasional spectaculars is low.

We're not shedding tears for illegals caught and deported. And we don't question that Mr. Leopold has had good ideas - such as promptly notifying ICE when immigrants wind up in the county jail. But this isn't a fight a county executive can win.

What's needed is a comprehensive national solution. It should include border control, punishment of employers who deliberately exploit the labor of illegal immigrants, and a path to legality for the millions of illegals who are already in this country and - let's face it - are not going to be hauled off in raids like the one last week.
There's the deal-breaker right there.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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Yes, we need observation of the law we already have in place. We need to prosecute employees of illegals. We also need more, rather then fewer raids. As far as providing a 'path to legality for millions' --- forget it. Because why would it be in the best interest of our country to do so? Aside from cheap labor -- which theorhetically would be history once illegals become legal thus ending their willingness to work for crap wages -- what do these millions of people contribute to the larger picture? Because obviously, individually there are going to be wonderful people, good neighbors etc.. But in the bigger picture? The US no longer (if it ever had) has a magic box where money, jobs, and housing mysteriously appear. We cannot absorb over a million people into the already shrinking blue collar job market. If we do somehow have a nationalized health care system --- can we have that plus over a million people who will not be paying into it? Or as much into it as needed to keep it afloat? We have real problems, and I don't see why we are being guilted into taking millions of people when we really have no societal or financial place for them.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yes, we need observation of the law we already have in place. We need to prosecute employees of illegals. We also need more, rather then fewer raids. As far as providing a 'path to legality for millions' --- forget it. Because why would it be in the best interest of our country to do so? Aside from cheap labor -- which theorhetically would be history once illegals become legal thus ending their willingness to work for crap wages -- what do these millions of people contribute to the larger picture? Because obviously, individually there are going to be wonderful people, good neighbors etc.. But in the bigger picture? The US no longer (if it ever had) has a magic box where money, jobs, and housing mysteriously appear. We cannot absorb over a million people into the already shrinking blue collar job market. If we do somehow have a nationalized health care system --- can we have that plus over a million people who will not be paying into it? Or as much into it as needed to keep it afloat? We have real problems, and I don't see why we are being guilted into taking millions of people when we really have no societal or financial place for them.
The recession is going to deepen.........significantly in some areas (Midwest comes to mind)---------whether McCain or Obama wins come November is fast becoming irrelevant IMHO.

Whomever is President-elect will have to deal with the economy and, raw survival for the USA may depend upon mass deportations---------Hispanic advocacy groups be damned. Before anybody dares to call me a 'racist'-----------the cold reality is that 85%+ of all illegals are from either Mexico or Central America no matter their actual race.

Now: this is murkier admittedly; but if Mexico were to collapse between 7-20 million of their citizens (including their US born Anchor Babies) being forced out of the USA and the impending showdown between the Zetas, etc.-----------we may have to pick up the wreckage that was once Mexico and rebuild it along American lines. Which would spell the de facto end of 'Hispanic' culture (including the widespread use of Spanish) within 2-3 generations, tops.
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