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Old 08-22-2008, 09:02 AM
 
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Immigrant victim sits in Rikers after slashing in Bronx

Thursday, August 21st 2008, 10:17 PM
Imprisoned Marco Baeza, a Mexican immigrant, shows the 250 stitches and staples needed to close the gashes he suffered when he was assaulted on Prospect Ave. in the Bronx.


Around 11:15 p.m. on July 10, Mexican immigrant Marco Baeza, 28, who restores antiques by day, finished his night job painting shelves on the upper East Side.
As he walked out the door to catch the subway home to the Bronx, Baeza told his boss Sammy Awad, who owns a wine shop on E. 79th St., that he'd be back that weekend for some touchup work and to collect his pay.
Less than an hour later, police found Baeza in a pool of blood outside the Prospect Ave. elevated station. His face, head and arms were so badly slashed that doctors at Lincoln Hospital needed 250 stitches and staples to close his wounds.
Baeza told police two strangers mugged him as he walked out of the station. Area residents say a gang of youths has been preying on Mexican immigrants along Prospect Ave. for some time.
The thugs figure most Mexicans are in the country illegally and will never go to police - but Baeza, who has spent nearly a decade in New York, is not your typical illegal immigrant.



Immigrant victim sits in Rikers after slashing in Bronx
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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I hope they find the little you-know-whats that did this to the poor guy and throw them in the slammer!
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:07 PM
 
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Immigrant victim sits in Rikers after slashing in Bronx
Thursday, August 21st 2008, 10:17 PM
Imprisoned Marco Baeza, a Mexican immigrant, shows the 250 stitches and staples needed to close the gashes he suffered when he was assaulted on Prospect Ave. in the Bronx.


Around 11:15 p.m. on July 10, Mexican immigrant Marco Baeza, 28, who restores antiques by day, finished his night job painting shelves on the upper East Side.
As he walked out the door to catch the subway home to the Bronx, Baeza told his boss Sammy Awad, who owns a wine shop on E. 79th St., that he'd be back that weekend for some touchup work and to collect his pay.
Less than an hour later, police found Baeza in a pool of blood outside the Prospect Ave. elevated station. His face, head and arms were so badly slashed that doctors at Lincoln Hospital needed 250 stitches and staples to close his wounds.
Baeza told police two strangers mugged him as he walked out of the station. Area residents say a gang of youths has been preying on Mexican immigrants along Prospect Ave. for some time.
The thugs figure most Mexicans are in the country illegally and will never go to police - but Baeza, who has spent nearly a decade in New York, is not your typical illegal immigrant.

Immigrant victim sits in Rikers after slashing in Bronx

Well there are reasons most of us choose not to live and work in the more dangerous neighborhoods. Maybe this guy didn't study up enough on crime rates, but I would guess most of us if we moved to Mexico or any country would take crime rates into consideration before choosing a neighborhood.

Not that there should be crime but it's naive to think just because you're raza that you should expect to be immune.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:45 PM
 
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Well there are reasons most of us choose not to live and work in the more dangerous neighborhoods. Maybe this guy didn't study up enough on crime rates, but I would guess most of us if we moved to Mexico or any country would take crime rates into consideration before choosing a neighborhood.

Not that there should be crime but it's naive to think just because you're raza that you should expect to be immune.
Yeah, and all the other poor people who live in poor neighborhoods choose to live there.
"didnt study up enough on crime rates", LOL.
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:48 AM
 
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Yeah, and all the other poor people who live in poor neighborhoods choose to live there.
"didnt study up enough on crime rates", LOL.
No -- those poor people didn't CHOOSE to move into those neighborhoods, someone moving here from another country and illegally certainly made a choice.

If you were born and raised in this neighborhood and not in a position to get out then it's obviously different from someone moving into it. If you were moving to Mexico City, would you pick the worst neighborhood?

Crime isn't right regardless -- but whoever decides for whatever reason to pack their bags and move into a crime-ridden neighborhood isn't making a wise decision.
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:37 AM
 
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I was walking around the Bronx earlier this year, and there's some rough looking areas. Doesn't say exactly where on Prospect Avenue in the Bronx the incident occured. Nor does it mention the race of the two assailants.

Incident occured at 11:15 p.m.

prospect ave., Bronx, New York, United States - Google Maps

New York City Subway Map - The Bronx (http://www.nysubway.com/map/zoom-bronx.html - broken link)
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Old 08-23-2008, 10:27 AM
 
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I was walking around the Bronx earlier this year, and there's some rough looking areas. Doesn't say exactly where on Prospect Avenue in the Bronx the incident occured. Nor does it mention the race of the two assailants.

Incident occured at 11:15 p.m.

prospect ave., Bronx, New York, United States - Google Maps

New York City Subway Map - The Bronx (http://www.nysubway.com/map/zoom-bronx.html - broken link)
NYPD - Crime Prevention (http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/most_wanted/most_wanted.shtml - broken link)

According to this, 10 out of 24 -- more than a third -- of the most wanted in the Bronx are La Raza.

This one sounds questionable -- maybe a gang fight or self-defense since it looks like the illegal might have started the problem:

A few minutes after the attack, police grabbed Max Stevenson and Bryan Ozuna, both 19, near the station. Stevenson was bleeding from his neck and chest and Ozuna had a bloody gravity knife tucked in his waistband.
Stevenson told cops: "The Mexican did this. The Mexican slashed me first so I slashed him back."
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Old 08-23-2008, 12:56 PM
 
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If you were born and raised in this neighborhood and not in a position to get out then it's obviously different from someone moving into it. If you were moving to Mexico City, would you pick the worst neighborhood?
If you did not have a lot of money, let's say to the point of poverty, but still had to live, would you not be forced to live in an undesirable neighborhood? Rather than living on the streets? I suspect that if you had no family or means of getting some quick money for a security deposit & a few months rent, you would be forced to live in that area. Happens to lots of people every day, regardless if they're legal or not.
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:52 PM
 
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I am glad that some people can actually admit that poor people choose to be poor and live where they live. we need more thinkers like that!

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Yeah, and all the other poor people who live in poor neighborhoods choose to live there.
"didnt study up enough on crime rates", LOL.
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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I am glad that some people can actually admit that poor people choose to be poor and live where they live. we need more thinkers like that!
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