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Old 12-11-2009, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I'm not positive on this, but maybe the term "undocumented" came about because it is the direct translation of the Spanish way of describing an illegal immigrant. In Spanish they term these people as "trabajadores/empleados sin papeles."

Sin papeles = without papers...hence, undocumented.

Of course I could be wrong, maybe it was the other way around. It's just a thought.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:46 PM
 
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ill put my money on sotomayors knowledge over yours any day. shoot even mine!
she is on the bench after all.

again, this is much ado about nothing.
It has nothing to do with her knowledge. She knows very well that the correct government term for illegal aliens is not "undocumented". Yeah, she is on the bench because Obama wanted diversity not because she was the best qualified. In fact she shouldn't even be there after her racists, sextist remarks before she was appointed as a SCJ.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:48 PM
 
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I'm not positive on this, but maybe the term "undocumented" came about because it is the direct translation of the Spanish way of describing an illegal immigrant. In Spanish they term these people as "trabajadores/empleados sin papeles."

Sin papeles = without papers...hence, undocumented.

Of course I could be wrong, maybe it was the other way around. It's just a thought.
That is pure baloney! Hispanics do not want to shed a bad light on their illegal amigos so they came up with some PC language and they expect everyone to accept what they choose to call them and to call them likewise. We all know what is behind this terminology. Who do they think they are changing government terms to suit themselves?
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:30 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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oh you really dont know what you are talking about now.

she is HIGHLY qualified. and shes not racist or sexist
im done.

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It has nothing to do with her knowledge. She knows very well that the correct government term for illegal aliens is not "undocumented". Yeah, she is on the bench because Obama wanted diversity not because she was the best qualified. In fact she shouldn't even be there after her racists, sextist remarks before she was appointed as a SCJ.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:32 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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valid documents that prove citizenship. they dont have those.

thus they are undocumented. i get it.
just another term.

sub, hero, hoagie, samich.

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<<Undocumented is very descriptive and directly related to immigrant status.>>

Undocumented is not a very descriptive word for illegal aliens. Many of them have a plethora of documents, albeit in different names.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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oh you really dont know what you are talking about now.

she is HIGHLY qualified. and shes not racist or sexist
im done.
Really? Don't you recall how she said "as a wise Latina she would more than likely reach better decisions than a white male judge? What would you have said if a white male candidate would have said "as a white male I would more than likely make better decisons that a Latina judge? You really are in deep denial, aren't you?

She may be qualifed otherwise but this statement should have disqualified her immediately for biasness, ethnocentricism and sexism.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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valid documents that prove citizenship. they dont have those.

thus they are undocumented. i get it.
just another term.

sub, hero, hoagie, samich.
Whatever you call them, they are still in this country in violation of the law. Thus, they are illegal aliens.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:55 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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i discussed that enough in another thread. go read that one for a good schooling!

what she said wasnt racist at all.
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Really? Don't you recall how she said "as a wise Latina she would more than likely reach better decisions than a white male judge? What would you have said if a white male candidate would have said "as a white male I would more than likely make better decisons that a Latina judge? You really are in deep denial, aren't you?

She may be qualifed otherwise but this statement should have disqualified her immediately for biasness, ethnocentricism and sexism.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:03 PM
 
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i discussed that enough in another thread. go read that one for a good schooling!

what she said wasnt racist at all.
IMO it was both racist and sextist. Many others were in agreement with this. You like most Hispanics cannot accept any criticizm of your own ethnic kind even when warranted. Which is obvious by their constant apologies for illegal aliens.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Really? Don't you recall how she said "as a wise Latina she would more than likely reach better decisions than a white male judge? What would you have said if a white male candidate would have said "as a white male I would more than likely make better decisons that a Latina judge? You really are in deep denial, aren't you?

She may be qualifed otherwise but this statement should have disqualified her immediately for biasness, ethnocentricism and sexism.
Never mind that Sotomayor is about as 'White' as Sheriff Joe---------just that many Hispanics try to play their joke of a race card.
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