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Old 01-08-2010, 05:32 AM
 
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Some time this year the very controversial topic of immigration will again be brought up by President Obama and be brought up for a vote by both houses of Congress. The issue that will get most of the press will be what to do with the 20 million illegal aliens who are living in America. That issue is important but the real outcome of all of this will not get much press. That will be a huge increase in the number of legal immigration allowed into America.

Up to recent years our country only allowed about 400,000 legal immigrants into our country. Now that amount is 1.2 million. That does not include countless more who are allowed to come here for short periods for assignments and travel.

The bill will allow millions of unskilled and uneducated immigrants who are relatives of the current illegal aliens to come once they get amnesty.

The issue of amnesty for the illegal aliens is a smoke screen for the larger less publicized issue of increasing the number of legal immigrants into America.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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Yes and the proponents of this massive amnesty are also claiming that because the illegals can go after legal jobs with legal wages and benefits, it will stimulate the economy. Never mind that there is almost no jobs being created.

They'll try to push this down our throats, by claiming that because illegals working our legal jobs will earn more, they'll have even more to send to their country and spend here.
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Old 01-08-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Some time this year the very controversial topic of immigration will again be brought up by President Obama and be brought up for a vote by both houses of Congress. The issue that will get most of the press will be what to do with the 20 million illegal aliens who are living in America. That issue is important but the real outcome of all of this will not get much press. That will be a huge increase in the number of legal immigration allowed into America.

Up to recent years our country only allowed about 400,000 legal immigrants into our country. Now that amount is 1.2 million. That does not include countless more who are allowed to come here for short periods for assignments and travel.

The bill will allow millions of unskilled and uneducated immigrants who are relatives of the current illegal aliens to come once they get amnesty.

The issue of amnesty for the illegal aliens is a smoke screen for the larger less publicized issue of increasing the number of legal immigrants into America.
Absolutely! Not only will it increase legal immigration, but also family reunification will bring millions of parents who will be eligible for SSI benefits. It’s a recipe for disaster.
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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That does not include countless more who are allowed to come here for short periods for assignments and travel.
What was the point of including this piece of information? God forbid there are numerous people allowed to visit the country temporarily on a yearly basis. We should go ahead and prevent them from getting in, we don't want their tourism money and sales taxes, and if a company can't survive without temporary visa holders then it shouldn't be around anyway right?
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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It seems to me that the real problem, actually, with comprensive immigration reform will be the granting of 20 million unwanted illegal border jumpers citizenship itself. These poorly educated illegal border jumpers, mostly minimum wage or below workers, will mostly qualify for all of the welfare programs available, promptly bankrupting the welfare programs. Also, don't stand near the border after such an amnesty lest you get trampled by the next wave of unwanted border jumpers breaking in hoping for amnesty for themselves, realizing that the US is not serious about enforcing it's borders or it's immigration laws. Ludicrous chain migration laws, set up by hispandering democratic politicians wanting more democratic voters, will allow half of Mexico to immigrate legally into the US. Amnestied illegals will get to bring their parents, siblings, cousins, etc. All good democratic voters of course, no doubt.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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It seems to me that the real problem, actually, with comprensive immigration reform will be the granting of 20 million unwanted illegal border jumpers citizenship itself. These poorly educated illegal border jumpers, mostly minimum wage or below workers, will mostly qualify for all of the welfare programs available, promptly bankrupting the welfare programs. Also, don't stand near the border after such an amnesty lest you get trampled by the next wave of unwanted border jumpers breaking in hoping for amnesty for themselves, realizing that the US is not serious about enforcing it's borders or it's immigration laws. Ludicrous chain migration laws, set up by hispandering democratic politicians wanting more democratic voters, will allow half of Mexico to immigrate legally into the US. Amnestied illegals will get to bring their parents, siblings, cousins, etc. All good democratic voters of course, no doubt.
I understand that the amnesty bill has already been written by the hispanic caucus and la racist. The only question is do Pelosi and Reid, with the democratic super majorities, have the gall to push such a bill through behind closed doors? Especially after rolling over the American public with their power grabbing Maobama health care plan.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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I understand that the amnesty bill has already been written by the hispanic caucus and la racist. The only question is do Pelosi and Reid, with the democratic super majorities, have the gall to push such a bill through behind closed doors? Especially after rolling over the American public with their power grabbing Maobama health care plan.
Of course they do. All the more incentive for them now since they failed to create a single job when they promised 5 million. They sense growing anger from Americans so what better than to replace the American voters with a very loyal and easily fooled foreign voter?

That's why the family reunification portion is such a big part of the proposed bill -- 30 million illegals here already might not quite offset the loss of the vote by unemployed Americans so they want to count on tens of millions more soon to arrive to "reunify" families on this side of the border.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Of course they do. All the more incentive for them now since they failed to create a single job when they promised 5 million. They sense growing anger from Americans so what better than to replace the American voters with a very loyal and easily fooled foreign voter?

That's why the family reunification portion is such a big part of the proposed bill -- 30 million illegals here already might not quite offset the loss of the vote by unemployed Americans so they want to count on tens of millions more soon to arrive to "reunify" families on this side of the border.
Exactly. Far left wing amnesty democratic politicians willing to subvert the American voting process to create a permanent democratic majority by creating a new voter bloc of amnestied illegal alien future democratic voters given instant voting priviledges. Enough new gullible amnestied illegal alien democratic voters to more than replace all of the actual real Americans turned off by the amnesty democrats blatant power grab. That would be that change that Maobama is talking about that would destroy America.
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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I think it will backfire on politicians though. With millions more Hispanic voters, look for a big increase in Hispanic names on the ballot. When that happens, who do you think Hispanics will vote for? They'll have no established party loyalty, only loyalty to their own ethnic group.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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I think it will backfire on politicians though. With millions more Hispanic voters, look for a big increase in Hispanic names on the ballot. When that happens, who do you think Hispanics will vote for? They'll have no established party loyalty, only loyalty to their own ethnic group.
The current crop of white amnesty democratic politicians will continue to capitalize on the hispanic vote, kissing hispanic azz behind their gated communities of course. But you're right, the tribally ethnocentric hispanics will of course always vote hispanic and anywhere there is a hispanic majority you'll begin to see more hispanic office holders and fewer white amnesty democratic politicians.
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