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Old 04-24-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I ain't gonna pay no penalty I tell ye.
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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With the IRS enforcing health care laws, why not have the IRS verify freaking SSN and citizenship come tax day too?

Pelosi was all in favor of tossing American citizens in prison for daring not to have proper health insurance, but not for breaking into our country illegally, violating our immigration laws and leaching off our taxpayer funded social services and schools?
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No one is required to buy auto insurance.

This doesn't violate any laws.

Courts have allowed DUI checkpoints. This is no different.
If you drive a car, they do.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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This is not a REPUBLICIAN OR DEMOCRAT issue, we are talking aobut here, this is a crucial Political issue, not being addressed, and for exactly what reason. I am sure most political figures, have their reasons for not wanting to address this issue a plauge facing our Nation, and getting worse by the day. Something must be done and soon.
california-jewel !!! ... Precisely Right !

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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With the IRS enforcing health care laws, why not have the IRS verify freaking SSN and citizenship come tax day too?

Pelosi was all in favor of tossing American citizens in prison for daring not to have proper health insurance, but not for breaking into our country illegally, violating our immigration laws and leaching off our taxpayer funded social services and schools?
Wapasha !!! ... Sounds like A Plan To Me !

Thanks / Old Lamar
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Old 04-25-2010, 03:15 AM
 
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<<However, the Constitution already prohibits illegal search and seizure. The immigration law is in clear violation of the 4th amendment.>>

Not necessarily. No where in the bill does it say police can accost someone for no other reason than to question them about to their immigration status. My understanding is, for example: Someone is stopped for speeding. The officer, as they do with everyone, asks for license, registration, and proof of insurance. If the driver is unable to produce a valid license, the officer is going to check further. Is it because it's suspended, they never had one, or they're inelibible because of their immigration status? What this bill does is give the officer the authority to determeine if the reason the person doesn't have a valid license is because they're an illegal alien.
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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If you drive a car, they do.
Soem do. Some don't.

DUI checkpoints are nothing more than stopping people for no reason and conducting an illegal search. So is getting thru airport security. Courts have upheld that and this immigration law is no different.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:33 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Obama is a weasel. Too bad so many Americans were brainwashed with his campaign. Real shame.

No more of a weasel than Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr and Reagan. But a weasel nontheless.
I feel your pain, he is the Head Weasel in Charge, He just passed Health Care Reform, Seated a Supreme Court Judge and will Seat a second...Dang a weasel, but a weasel in charge. Them the facts. He will handel Immigration reform on his schedule, in his time.
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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I feel your pain, he is the Head Weasel in Charge, He just passed Health Care Reform.......
It's not a Reform. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

This Health Care Bill only succeeds in maintaining a large majority of the status quo.

The bill actually appeases and caters to the Insurance companies/Financial corporations. The power of controling our own personal health choices/ medical decisions remain in their hands. Not ours. No real regulations.


Insurance companies are synonymous with Financial corporations. Insurance companies are nothing if they are not Financial corporations.

This Bill is for the most part a farce.


Sure, the Bill ensures that one of these parasetic Insurance companies/Financial corporations can't deny you because of a pre-existing condition or drop you while your in the middle of some serious Chemo treatment for cancer. But, they can in fact decide to jack-up your premiums whenever they choose to do so.

So when people are going through Chemo and have either been out of work a lot; because of the illness and treatment. Or you've been in a serious car accident and required surgery and a lot of treatment: the parasites can choose to jack-up your premiums .....double...triple ...four times the cost. Which of course will break people and leave them broke. As well creatre a ton of stress and anxiety when they're trying to heal and recover.

This Obama, he's not doing any of us any favors with this health bill. He's giving yet another hand-out to the Insurance companies/Financial corporations and making it mandatory that we pay them the hand out.

It's farce.
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Old 04-25-2010, 10:03 AM
 
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The same reason Obama told Ohio voters facing high unemployment rates is that he would put NAFTA back on the table but instead is handing global corporations huge taxpayer bailouts.

Obama is just a puppet of the cheap labor corporations. He is encouraging massive illegal immigration every time he says "amnesty" or "immigration reform" and he knows it.

The powers-that-be don't care how many Americans are unemployed, they want the quick easy profits from unlimited cheap illegal labor. And the easy votes.
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