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White Folks: Would you support a law that allows police to detain you at will for proof of your legal status?
NO, I don't support the law in Arizona either. Whats next, finding out my religous affiliation and putting my family in a gas chamber? Anyone that supports circumventing our constitution is not American. The left has always tried to re-define the 2nd ammendment, the right has done the same with the 1st until the tea baggers came along. If you are an American citizen that believes in what this country was founded upon then you can't support the law in Arizona.
ps, before anyone from the right cries about what I just wrote remember what you always say about gun rights.
then I guess Homeland Security has violated the constitution and our rights with airport security.
I think any piece of legislature must weigh the ramifications before it's etched in stone. I'm glad people do consider where this road goes, I only wish they'd use facts alone to speculate so that plausible outcomes would be what we're judging. Noodly appendages get in the debate-- people just default to whatever someone else says.
Catch my drift yet? We can imagine anything we want. What if we're just brains in a jar?
Oh...what you provided was most certainly not an example of anything. It was a ridiculous hypothetical concocted by your brain (which sits motionless in a jar).
There is a huge difference between being screened for weapons at an airport and being stopped by a cop because they felt like it and arrested for leaving your ID in another pair of pants. Please come up with something better than that.
If you are unable to see the correlation between security and economic issues, then the conversation is over.
Bye Bye
I think any piece of legislature must weigh the ramifications before it's etched in stone. I'm glad people do consider where this road goes, I only wish they'd use facts alone to speculate so that plausible outcomes would be what we're judging. Noodly appendages get in the debate-- people just default to whatever someone else says.
Agree completely.
Imagine that god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Bow to his noodly appendages.
There is a huge difference between being screened for weapons at an airport and being stopped by a cop because they felt like it and arrested for leaving your ID in another pair of pants. Please come up with something better than that.
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Originally Posted by aliveandwellinSA
If you are unable to see the correlation between security and economic issues, then the conversation is over.
Bye Bye
I answered your question. It's not credible. If you forgot your ID at an airport YOU GO HOME NOT TO JAIL awaiting deportation..If you can't see that your "point" is illogical than yes, the conversation is over.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi
"First they came ..." is a famous statement attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text expresses, in a condensed form, the understanding of history presented by Niemöller in a January 6, 1946 speech before representatives of the Confessing Church in Frankfurt.[1]
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
While I am against amnesty for illegal aliens and think we need to reinforce the border, I just can't agree with this law. Again the government chipping away at our rights.
There are thousands of Hispanic citizens and legal immigrants in this country. So it's okay to stop them.
Some Hispanics have dark skin but can we be sure if they are Latins or Blacks? So it's okay to stop the Blacks.
Some whites have olive complextions from their Italian heritage. But how can we know? So it's okay to stop them.
One day I might go to the beach and get a tan. But how can we know it's just a tan? So it's okay to stop me.
Nope. Sorry. Find another way and leave me, my tan, my Hispanic, Itlian, Black, and anyone else who isn't lily white friends and fellow citizens alone.
There is a huge difference between being screened for weapons at an airport and being stopped by a cop because they felt like it and arrested for leaving your ID in another pair of pants. Please come up with something better than that.
You owe me an irony meter. Sadly, I doubt you even see the irony in your words.
Catch my drift yet? We can imagine anything we want. What if we're just brains in a jar?
Oh...what you provided was most certainly not an example of anything. It was a ridiculous hypothetical concocted by your brain (which sits motionless in a jar).
Ugh,
I used an example, of a law that would upset people. Its a decent comparison.
Again,
If a law was passed, allowing officers to pull over anyone who is smoking, to see if they are smoking something illegal, cigarette smokers would be pissed.
ACTUAL LAW NOW
Law enforcement is now allowed, to pull anyone over they suspect is an illegal immigrant. Don't you think legal Hispanics would be pissed about being pulled over?
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