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Unread 01-21-2012, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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@Focused. Yes the slower pace, no huge shopping malls in every direction, not having 50 theater shows to chose from, loss of friends that he hangs out with and less diversity. (We currently live very close to "little india", a very large orthodox jewish community, "little chinatown", etc. We are in Chicago proper, not a suburb of Chicago.)

Very glad to hear that we will fit in. Living in a rural area has always been what I have yearned for. It just appears that I will be inflicting what I want on my sons in the near future, LOL

Hopefully the joys of hunting, fishing, riding our horses without the one hour commute to get to them, and an ATV to drive around on will compensate for any losses here.
Holler at one of us when you get down here and we can show you the lakes,camping and horse riding areas...hell,you can drop your horses off in my yard and ride for days on end without crossing the same trail twice.
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Unread 01-21-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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@Muleskinner Will do when I can dump the house I am currently in and can figure out what county will have the lowest taxes, how remote an area we want/need and a big enough house for us all. Plus I want to make sure we are close enough to either Carbondale or Marion so we can go out to dinner on occasion, find a place to work out, take a dance class or some guitar lessons, and other stuff like that. Wish me luck!
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Unread 01-22-2012, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I wish you great luck! It will be large shock to your kids to move from a city of instant gratification to one of self-reliance and responsibility. Most counties don't have dog laws unless it is a business. Horses are great teachers. If the kids don't know yet they will learn what the word "muck" means. You will have to ask the old muleskinner about rattlers. I don't know how well they like barns and horses.

The best news is SoIL is close to St. Louis and Barnes-Jewish Hospital. There are only two Top 25 Hospitals in the Midwest and Barnes-Jewish is one of them.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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@Muleskinner Will do when I can dump the house I am currently in and can figure out what county will have the lowest taxes, how remote an area we want/need and a big enough house for us all. Plus I want to make sure we are close enough to either Carbondale or Marion so we can go out to dinner on occasion, find a place to work out, take a dance class or some guitar lessons, and other stuff like that. Wish me luck!
Keep Carterville in mind as you gather information. It is in between both Marion and Carbondale and has less crime than both. Granted, you are coming from Chicago, so I doubt you'll feel unsafe in either Marion or Carbondale. Carbondale does have a criminal element in town, due to the University, though. I went to college there, and would never live in Carbondale, but that's just me.

For the most part, I would just keep your options open. There are a few counties I would cross off, though. Alexander, Pulaski, and probably Franklin.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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@focused. Why cross those counties off? I am looking at properties in the Shawnee Nat'l forest areas. Taxes? Crime? Unsavory elements? ???

FYI - I have been jumped, I have had homies attempt to intimidate me, I've been cornered, had a gun pulled on me, etc. My son's schoolmates have been jumped and robbed. My parents apartment has been broken into 3 times while they were sleeping. I always keep large dogs (sheppards and now a dobe too.) At least somewhere other than Chicago I can legally have a gun which helpd even the score to an extend. In other words, my guess is that neither Marion or Carbondale would faze me the least. I just want to spare my kids the feelings associated with being a "victim" and feeling unsafe.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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@focused. Why cross those counties off? I am looking at properties in the Shawnee Nat'l forest areas. Taxes? Crime? Unsavory elements? ???

FYI - I have been jumped, I have had homies attempt to intimidate me, I've been cornered, had a gun pulled on me, etc. My son's schoolmates have been jumped and robbed. My parents apartment has been broken into 3 times while they were sleeping. I always keep large dogs (sheppards and now a dobe too.) At least somewhere other than Chicago I can legally have a gun which helpd even the score to an extend. In other words, my guess is that neither Marion or Carbondale would faze me the least. I just want to spare my kids the feelings associated with being a "victim" and feeling unsafe.
Carterville is not a bad town,but there are far cheaper areas to look than Carterville and with much better police depts...C'ville cops are pretty unprofessional and good ol' boy like.

Your cheaper/safer areas are eastern Williamson,Johnson and Saline counties...lots of back country,but still closer to Marion time wise than anything west due to the traffic.

Stay out of Cairo area at all costs.

Metropolis is a nice area too although I'm not to sure about the horse riding areas there(they are all over,I just don't know that back country as well)....there are a couple of posters on here from that area that can fill you in better on that area.

As far as crime down here for the most part you just have the usual punks and methheads...both hide through the day.

Carbondale used to be an awesome place,but for some reason the worse elements are gaining ground there in the last few years.


NOTHING down here crime wise compares to what you have already had to live through it sounds like.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Carterville is not a bad town,but there are far cheaper areas to look than Carterville and with much better police depts...C'ville cops are pretty unprofessional and good ol' boy like.

Your cheaper/safer areas are eastern Williamson,Johnson and Saline counties...lots of back country,but still closer to Marion time wise than anything west due to the traffic.

Stay out of Cairo area at all costs.

Metropolis is a nice area too although I'm not to sure about the horse riding areas there(they are all over,I just don't know that back country as well)....there are a couple of posters on here from that area that can fill you in better on that area.

As far as crime down here for the most part you just have the usual punks and methheads...both hide through the day.

Carbondale used to be an awesome place,but for some reason the worse elements are gaining ground there in the last few years.


NOTHING down here crime wise compares to what you have already had to live through it sounds like.
I feel special now, because you just named one county I used to live in, one county I currently live in, and one county I work in. haha

But yes, chitown, "Crime, unsavory elements, and such."
There are definitely places cheaper than Carterville, but it seemed like a good middle ground to suggest. Also, depends how "country" and rural you want to go.

As far as crime goes, no, you definitely will not find that level of crime/intimidation/etc.... not unless you want to stop and take a look at East St. Louis on your way down.
I kid, I kid.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 04:20 PM
 
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Any thoughts on Pope County? I already have a line on a "pocket listing". Has everything I would be looking for but it appears from the map that it is fairly remote. Medical access may be an issue down the line because it appears my elderly parents may be jumping ship to join us. Plus, looking at recent statistic online, it appears that the high school might have 150 students max. Feel like we would stick out like sore thumbs as the new family in town.
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Unread 01-22-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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Any thoughts on Pope County? I already have a line on a "pocket listing". Has everything I would be looking for but it appears from the map that it is fairly remote. Medical access may be an issue down the line because it appears my elderly parents may be jumping ship to join us. Plus, looking at recent statistic online, it appears that the high school might have 150 students max. Feel like we would stick out like sore thumbs as the new family in town.
Remote? Pope County?

Yes, those two go hand in hand. Pope County is definitely remote. I don't mean that in a bad way. Depending on what you are looking for and your perspective, that is not always a bad thing.

My high school was around 180, so I definitely do not look down upon 150. As far as medical care goes, I will always recommend Western Baptist in Paducah. It is an amazing hospital!
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Unread 01-24-2012, 05:32 AM
 
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Focused has it right..Pope IS remote and that's a good thing...my shop is located about a mile from the Pope county line (My shop is in Saline and most of my parking lot is in Williamson)...Pope county has some great horse back area,some of the very best hunting IL has to offer,great fishing on the river and some really good people.

We always hit the Golconda shrimp Fest every year too

You can steal a house there if you go after a foreclosed place...I used to have an Real Estate agent's number that dealt with a lot of foreclosures in Pope...I'll see if I can find her card and PM you if I do.

To avoid a long bus ride for your kids,look closer to Golconda if you are interested in Pope county.

Paducah is fairly close for medical and shopping.
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