What does our downtown need to keep it fun for young people? (Indianapolis: apartment, credit)

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by citygenius

Here is the point: Is it the people or city? In my 1st post i asked what we need to make our downtown look devloped and modern. now i realised it is not possibile since we have conserver population.

I'm laid back but still i'd love 2 enjoy my life.

And colts? they cannot save our downtown. Ofourse they are the backbone for indy across the nation as fame but i'm talking about living style and fun

Actually, I think it is you. I don't mean that as a bad thing, but what more do you want downtown? There are many residents and things to do down here, and before the economy fell apart, there were plans for more things. Actually, former mayor Bart Peterson had several projects pegged for downtown that died when Ballard took over. Indianapolis is not, and will never be, Chicago or NYC. But for a city its size; in this region, we have a downtown to be proud of! I am not saying DT Indy is perfect or that the city should not strive for more; but if downtown Indy is not entertaining enough or modern enough for you now, it won't likely be any time soon. Which is fine; I don't mean to sound condescending or dismissive of your plight, it just sounds like you would prefer a larger city.

BTW, the Colts thing domergurl brought up, that was a joke. I mean, I think it was

[citygenius]

Oh wait. This may be a great topic for debate lol.

I did not like the exterior of the Lucas Oil Stadium

When i saw it under construction, i was like what are you building a warehouse?

Ok look at it. what the heck is the brick?

the stadium resembles our state and conservativeness

Someone told me that they build it that way to show our city is an industrial city. bull crap.

Look at dallas cowboys new stadium. it will be opened next season



they also r going 2 have largest HD screen ever in their staidum. its a diff story


it looks super cool and ultra modern. It shows that their city is on high end

architecture mirrors the city image.

Anyway i'm a big fan of colts and i like indy since i'm living here but i hope it gets better

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by citygenius

I did not like the exterior of the Lucas Oil Stadium

When i saw it under construction, i was like what are you building a warehouse?

Ok look at it. what the heck is the brick?

the stadium resembles our state and conservativeness

Someone told me that they build it that way to show our city is an industrial city. bull crap.

It is supposed to look like a fieldhouse, which ties in with Indiana's past.

[Naptowner]

I think the stadium is supposed to look like Hinkle Fieldhouse. Regardless, it's an ugly building that looks cheap, despite its billion dollar price tag.

And to the OP: No, it's not you. Indy's downtown is designed to appeal to tourists visiting for an insurance agent convention, not to people who actually live here. Once you've run through the usual attractions - the museums, the zoo, the mall, etc., which would take you a weekend or two, you're left with a bunch of chain restaurants and a few bars.

[LIS123]

I think the previous poster is onto something. Indianapolis (and Indiana in general) is fairly spread out and focused on driving. It's not the type of place with a lot of people living within a small crowded area like in other cities. The term 'young' also means something different in Indy than in cities like NYC and SF. In those cities, people stay single and childless longer than in Indy. Amongst people of the same age, people in Indy are going to be more likely to want more space and live either in the periphery of the city or the suburbs than right in Downtown.

I get the sense that, after a relatively short time, one would find DT Indy relative non-exciting as the previous post suggests.

[domergurl]

I think it looks like an oil factory.

Yea, yea yea, Bears stadium isn't beautiful either, but I can respect that they worked with what they had.

Now, Jerry's house is going to be a marvel!

[citygenius]

Originally Posted by Naptowner

I think the stadium is supposed to look like

And to the OP: No, it's not you. Indy's downtown is designed to appeal to tourists visiting for an insurance agent convention, not to people who actually live here. Once you've run through the usual attractions - the museums, the zoo, the mall, etc., which would take you a weekend or two, you're left with a bunch of chain restaurants and a few bars.

thanks for supporting me. its true. We need tourists and our city has 2 be popular.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by citygenius

thanks for supporting me. its true. We need tourists and our city has 2 be popular.

I don't think anyone is being unsupportive. Compared to a lot of other cities our size, in this region, our downtown is great. There are theaters, a canal, the culture trail, coffee shops, scores of residents, restaurants, a grocery store, a tool store, a library. I don't know, I guess since I have lived down here before, and live on the fringe of downtown again, I have a different perspective of downtown. If I didn't work on the northside and wasn't a Target and Trader Joe's fiend; I would probably rarely travel more than a couple miles away from downtown. As a resident, everything I need is down here for essentials and entertainment.

I am just interested in what more you want. I don't mean that in an angry I hate you way; I mean that in a contructive let's discuss how we can improve downtown way. I threw out the White River connections; what are your ideas?

[Toxic Toast]

I would like a casino downtown. I enjoy the poker and blackjack.

[Matt986]

No offense to the OP, but "things to keep 22-year-olds entertained" is pretty far down on the list of what downtown Indy (or most other cities for that matter) needs.

My sense is that whatever that mysterious thing is, it would have a shelf-life of about 6 months before it would no longer be sufficient.

My suggestion would be to expand what it is that you are entertained by. Within downtown you can have some wonderful meals at some great independent restaurants at all levels of the price spectrum. You can go to plenty of very cool bars catering to just about any type of crowd. Between IRT, Theater On The Square, The Phoenix and the traveling Broadway series there's plenty of great theater downtown. You can go see live blues or live jazz every night at the Noodle or the Chatterbox. You've got a symphony orchestra. You've got an incredibly cool new public library that's free for your use. You've got great public spaces along Meridian Street, the Canal, White River State Park. You've got professional athletic events practically year round. Etc. Etc. Etc.

These are the types of things that attract and keep people with enough disposable income to be able to afford to live in those new condos and support the business that are trying to make it downtown (outside of the ones that are directly there to cater to the convention crowd).

Maybe I'm just not seeing the point that the OP is trying to make?