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Old 07-30-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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LOL..nobody wants to answer...would you take 4 percent growth through 2020 end?
Are you claiming the S&P will deliver (only) 4% through 2020? If that's what it is, then that's what my return will be in that particular fund so I'll have to "take it" and make a decision if I want to continue in that fund or not.

%-wise my S&P fund is a small part of my overall portfolio. I am and plan to remain diversified and my conservative estimates of ROI overall are a 5.5% return over the next several years. If I do better than that, Great! Wonderful!
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Are you claiming the S&P will deliver (only) 4% through 2020? If that's what it is, then that's what my return will be in that particular fund so I'll have to "take it" and make a decision if I want to continue in that fund or not.

%-wise my S&P fund is a small part of my overall portfolio. I am and plan to remain diversified and my conservative estimates of ROI overall are a 5.5% return over the next several years. If I do better than that, Great! Wonderful!
Ok..thank you for answering.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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In fact if you have the time 100% equities is the only way I think investors should go ..
I have around 18 years to retirement and currently have way too much in bonds, around 35% of my portfolio. I want to reduce this to just $50k in bonds max and the rest in equities, but since my bonds have gone down in value I will wait for a crash in equities to rebalance this.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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good look waiting for that crash . i have seen only 6 of them in more than 30 years
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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i have seen only 6 of them in more than 30 years
that's one every 5 years? we are going on 9 years now

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pr...rns-2018-07-30
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:57 PM
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Location: California
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Tariffs have just begun to show up in balance sheets. When you disrupt and increase input costs to pick winners, you will degrade the bottom line of a lot of business in this country. Earnings will reflect this soon.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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that's one every 5 years? we are going on 9 years now

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pr...rns-2018-07-30
those are not really crashes every 5 years .. corrections and downturns don't always make it a crash . some drops were a month or 2 but the major ones are really few



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Old 07-30-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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Yes, we'll have a crash, downturn, bear market, whatever.... someday. When? I wouldn't bother to guess. I've been investing for about 25 years and have never had to wait more than about 2 1/2 years to get back to a new high mark in my account. Waiting for the crash can be hazardous to your wealth.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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on an inflation adjusted basis it is a lot longer . 2000 took a total market fund 13 years to get ahead . 2008 took almost 5 years once you inflation adjust it .


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Old 07-30-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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on an inflation adjusted basis it is a lot longer . 2000 took a total market fund 13 years to get ahead . 2008 took almost 5 years once you inflation adjust it .
If one invested in a market index, then yes.

I said that I never had to wait more than about 2 1/2 years, which is true, adjusted for inflation or not.
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