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Old 02-22-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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For it or against it? And why?
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Ummmmmm . . can we have a bit more context??
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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Ummmmmm . . can we have a bit more context??
Lying about pregnancy on job interviews, about job history that involves working at dysfunctional workplaces (you know, because many employers don't like hearing you quit places that suck because you "shouldn't badmouth" even when badmouthing is reasonable in that case), about religious holidays that will be taken during the year, and so on.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Absolutely against it. You want a long-term, healthy, honest relationship between an employer and employee. Being a lying scumbag up front is going to be a thorn in that relationship.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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Our recent hire did not tell us she is pregnant until hired. She also didn't discuss the days she could not work or specific religious holidays she needs off until hired.

Would you consider this dishonest?
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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No, in fact I blame the interviewer(s) for not asking this question that is legal but would provide them with the opportunity to deny leave or let her go based on lying: "is there anything that might prevent you from coming to work every day on time?".
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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No, in fact I blame the interviewer(s) for not asking this question that is legal but would provide them with the opportunity to deny leave or let her go based on lying: "is there anything that might prevent you from coming to work every day on time?".
I see what you're doing but that has nothing to do with maternity leave in nine months (which my boss isn't fond of so soon, but I don't see a problem with) or taking religious holidays without exception, with one of them occurring every week for Orthodox Jews, Shabbat.
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Old 02-22-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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I see what you're doing but that has nothing to do with maternity leave in nine months (which my boss isn't fond of so soon, but I don't see a problem with) or taking religious holidays without exception, with one of them occurring every week for Orthodox Jews, Shabbat.
If she will be taking maternity leave in 9 months, then she wasn't pregnant during the interview process.

If the religious holiday will cause hardship on your company or it's employees (they will be upset), then you do not have to allow for the observation of the holiday. If the schedule is that it must fall on the religious holiday, tell her that she must work. Don't let it be a bigger problem than it is.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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OK, perhaps I spoke inaccurately. She is visibly newly pregnant (appears quite thin in the midsection). She started work a week and a half after the interview, so perhaps she wasn't pregnant on the interview, but I suspect she was.

She is a new graduate and although my director minds her not telling us, I sympathize with her in every way considering that the workforce is treating new grads like s--t and casting them aside because of "lack of experience".

I see no problem in lying on interviews or with references or salary history. I have lied in all of them or got someone to lie for me.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:22 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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If no one asked, it isn't a lie. And if someone asked about pregnancy or religion, they were inviting a lawsuit.

Not volunteering information is NOT the same thing as lying. And I'm speaking from an employer's perspective.
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